September 2nd, 2011
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About a week ago Eurogamer broke the news regarding Microsoft’s Content Submission and Release Policy. In a nutshell, it was revealed that Microsoft has some very strict policies on what they’re willing to publish on retail discs or on XBLA — if it arrives on a Sony platform first or has more content on a Sony platform, Microsoft won’t publish it. Well, in a recent discussion with Industry Gamers, SCEA’s SVP of Publisher Relations Rob Dyer fired back at Microsoft, in a big way. See a little of what he had to say below.
“I think what [Xbox Europe boss] Chris Lewis was referring to was something that we’ve known about for quite some time, that we’ve been dealing with, and trying to deal with – in the spirit of competition, more than anything, we look for ways to give our consumer reason to have the PS3. I think what Chris and the other representatives at Microsoft are doing is protecting an inferior technology. I think they want to dumb it down and keep it as pedestrian as possible so that if you want to do anything for Blu-ray or you have extra content above 9 gigs or you want to do anything of that nature, you’d better sure as heck remember that Microsoft can’t handle that,” Dyer began with his all-out attack.
“And that’s a huge problem with them. It first started on the smaller pubs, and we can talk about what’s happened on XBL and the policy they have there that requires publishers to have a whole litany of things in order to get onto their network or they have to go through and be published by Xbox, by Microsoft, which essentially lets them dictate how long they’ll be exclusive and whether or not they own the IP, etc, etc. They – for instance, if you want to be able to do something on XBL, you need to have an office, there’s all kinds of restrictions. We don’t do that. We don’t have any kind of policy like that.”
Read the entire article over at IndustryGamers
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+1 Lol
These Dimmilos dont know when to calm down XD
@ Nigel
look whos talking
I havent actually gone off swearing to or attacking anyone atall.
You have done exactly that many times the worst on this site, I think this applies to you more than anyone else
I have to agree with you but then again, a site about comparing platforms brings in people like this.
Still looking forward to some future H2H so keep up the good work.
it’d be nice if you started with mrxbot. he seems more annoying than android, thetruehurts, and buying combined…
Yeah I agree. I don’t want Android and those guys to get banned. Without them what would this site be? Nothing. Guys like them is what adds all the color!
MRXbot on the other hand is a shame for fanboys in general regardless of which is his console of choice.
Thank you. Some people on both sides of these arguments are getting ridiculous. Good to know you guys are watching!
Thanks for the message LOT staff, well said. It should bring some good results. I can see a few people below that either cannot read or are deliberately testing the electric fence; they’re at it again. Some people have improved their approach though. My two cents: go heavy-handed in the first couple days, make an example out of a couple people. That should reset the code of conduct.
@ LOT Staff
I have been coming to this site daily for along time now but only registered a few months ago. One of the things i used to love about this site was the break down it used to do regarding the head 2 head’s where you had a tally as to which out of the consoles was winning overall.
Is there any plans to bring this back? Please….
Oh an i agree fully with your statement regarding attitudes recently. People do tend to make it personal, one of the reasons i originally liked this site was down to some of the friendly banter from legends such as Android and thetruthhurts who make your site a little more fun but there is a select other few who just bring its tone down!
Keep up the good work though LOT
are you going to bring bavk thumbs up and thumbs down on comments?
Thumbs up……………..
Well I hope the first to face tge ban hammer is buying1999. That guy’s comments bring out the worst in everyone, including myself.
good job lot staff, about time this was put in place tbh. There’s a distinction between banter(even if that whole 360/ps3 is best banter is getting zzzzzz) and plain old being vile to other members.
LOL @ LoT
I admit, the trolling has been getting out of hand lately. Surely, there must be a threshold for everything. Sometimes going through the comments section can be quite a chore, when it gets cluttered with so much asinine posts. I don’t know how Suarez07 keeps up with all this; his patience is truly remarkable!
Twist3dm3rc is right, flamebait articles such as this don’t help either. haha
I would recommend banning Nigel, mrxbot, android, buying1999, dialgamarine, ps3fanboy, buying, thetruehurts, and dmank1lla, but I doubt you want to ban 90% of your site’s active community. :/
Haha AINSLEY, that’s some wit right there.
I lol’d Ainsley. I wish you posted here more often.
Now all those people have their issues and can act with the maturity of a 12 year old girl, but few really tick me off. Still, they all have their little issues which tick me off
PS3fanboy and Dialga never really give any love to anything that isn’t PS3, and will constantly compare games to PS3 titles that have NOTHING to due with them. Nigel is too easily trolled. Agamer contradicts himself constantly and yells at everything. TheTruthHurts is an immature xbot who has never made a post with any value, worth, or intelligence, and same goes for Buying1999. MrXbot is an obvious troll who you all seem to take seriously for some odd reason. Android… well…
Allot of people complain about Andriod, but I kinda actually like him (I like you all, don’t worry). He hates the PS3 and likes the 360, sure. He makes stupid posts, sure. But he does it all in a lighthearted tongue and cheek manner.
Now I being on the internet since the 1990′s, am not above trolling, and I know the simple tactics thereof. Most of Android’s posts I can tell are just done to get a fun reaction or two from Nigel or Dialga who ALWAYS reply to his sh*t posting. And more often than not, they’re funny little posts to chuckle at.
Android’s posts can be plain f*cking retarded, biased, and/or meant for trolling, but they’re not serious, aggressive blocks of rage like I see the rest of the fanboys on this site post on a daily basis. And if you’ve noticed, he’s not as retarded as he used to be, and is actually doing well constructed, serious posts that make sense. And he doesn’t just post “Oh this game sucks” or “Oh the PS3 sucks” or “Oh the Xbox version is better” – sometimes, he actually grows some balls and posts something of value. So basically… when it comes to retarded fanboys, Android’s the coolest in my eyes.
You guys can flame me all you like, but there, I said it. I don’t find Android annoying.
Attention LOT:
You might as well have warm up the ban hammer on me I don’t care any more. I gladly avoid this site like the plague just like i do three other sites gamespot .com, caws. ws and psxextreme .com. But if you do ban me you might as well just close down this worthless site because 99% of the people are the same way.
This generation gamers make sick all they care about is fanboyism. It not about gaming to have a good time. I leave you with this -PROUD DUEL CONSOLE OWNER FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS- and anyone who says other wise is just ignorant. plus you haters just don’t know me. People with one console just don’t now how to manage money to get both systems or are just some punk kid whos Mommy and Daddy pays for there game system and shouldn’t be gaming anyway.
I’m also a PROUD DUEL CONSOLE OWNER, glad I have both as both consoles provide some excellent games worth playing and both have some great graphics to show off! It saddens me when fanboys are so blind by their pure hatred of the “other” console, they really don’t know what they are missing. Being opened minded allows you to see things a different light, close mindedness creates a reality only you see and an unknown of what’s out there.
Don’t be fooled. A”gamer”908 is one of the worst fanboys on this site.
Proud single console owner here for the past 5 years!!
You know just because you can afford stuff doesn’t mean you’ll buy it, cause that means you can’t afford other stuff you want more! Why would I pay money for a PS3 without bluray, internet, with no interesting exclusives, worse graphics and worse multiplats(the good ones) and at a higher cost(if I wanna use the online and other stuff that is free with the PS3)? You gotta realize the opportunity cost for the 360 is extremely high. There’s a reason the PS3 is selling much better nowadays, they get a superior product at a better prize. That people would even buy an xbox now is insanity.
And yes I’m also one of the worst fanboys on this site but at least I’m no hypocrite about it.
@ps3fantard
How much money do make for defending Sony? Oh wait you don’t make any. They don’t care about you or what gaming system you defend. YES, i know the same can be said for the 360. There just gaming devices get over your self and your hate. I would have the Wii to if i felt like i would enjoying gaming on it but at the moment its a No. But the WiiU on the other is a yes once i see a good launch game line up. Then i’ll have the WiiU, PS3 and 360 in my gaming area.
Well in one way I did make money since they sold the PS3 at a loss. So yes I think it’s worth defending a company which makes such a great price worthy product.
@AGAMER
You were the biggest Xbot on here, then your pic suddenly changes to a PS3???
Also, I’m happy to read you’re a proud “DUEL” console owner.
I’m a proud “DUAL” console owner myself PS3 and PC, I’ll never go back to 360 again.
@Fix your face Don’t be fooled. He is still very much an Xbot. Look closer at his avatar. It’s that joking one that uses the whole PS3 does thing and has phrases like shitty security, zero privacy, etc.
That post is possibly most pointless drivel ever tbh
Why come here if you dislike site so much?
It’s DUAL console btw lol. How can you call anyone else ignorant, and then misspell dual lol
Atleast Lens of Truth is mature.
Let the fanboy war begin! Seriously I own both consoles and I don’t even care, but I’m curious how will xbox fanboy defend themselves on this one.
Sony kids are qqing… normal…
Hi, been a while since you last commented. Welcome back =)
yea, because qqing is an actual verb. (i know what you’re saying, you’re just not worth any time.)
Nop, not qqing right now but i am smileing like a troll
thats explain a lot of things now ….
I thought everyone already knew this….
The Xbox has held the PS3 back [well its held everything back including PC's, more so than the PS3] for ages.
If a game is to use more than 9 gb of disc space then thats a big no no for MS so devs [unless they are a well known and popular companY with a popular game] haveto stick to below 9 gb of disc space just because of the Xbox… and then the PS3 cant have any more as MS gets all touchy.
MS are a software company who have just used their masses of money to pay people to do the Xbox stuff for them and are trailing behind.
Sony are one of the top hardware companies and at the forefront of technology and are ahead in this game and always will be, but that doesnt stop MS being burger buns and trying to controll everything with their money and hold back gaming in general
LOL “TOP “HARDWARE.LOL 256 RAM AND 256 GRAPHCAL MEMORY LOL PS3=LAGSTATION 3
do u even understand what lag is lol ?? , cause it makes no relevant connection to ur previous statements in this comment.
Furthermore, it isnt what hes stating in his comment about “superior hardware”. Hes saying there are advantages to ps3 , mainly blu ray space, the openness of psn . being main points i would imagine
I never said ‘top’ hardware, I just said the way it is.
Neither the XBox or PS3 has ‘top’ hardware even for its time as they are consoles and made to be cheap, but PS3′s hardware is more advanced and efficient. Sony are a hardware company it is their speciality and they are one of the best and at the forefront of tech.
They make top rang PC’s Laptops TV’s and have a tonne of experience.
M$ are just a software company with lots of money, and with money comes power, the abilitly to controll a market [although its slipping allot recently] and get other people to make their sytstem rather than themselves [explains the poor qaulity and high faliure rate] and isnt as advanced or efficient as the PS3 but just a standard small PC
@MRXBOT
I f***ing love your name!!
I’m honestly not surprised. Microsoft had done a bunch of things like this. They’ve even bought games out of Sony exclusivity – Final Fantasy 13 much? Sony has their own tactics that they use, but nothing to the tactics that Microsoft employs to gain exclusive content.
imagine its fairly standard business practice to bully “suppliers” into remaining loyal by threatening to remove ur custom.
Japanese companies have their own set of business ethics, which are distinct from western ones, and this is partly why they had an american ceo for a while, to bring them into modern business practices. MS are typical big corporation, with it’s bully tactics.
i admire sony for trying to not get dragged down into these practices as much(partly as they cant compete financially), but guess that’s just business.
It’s a shame devs cant use whatever advantages they have at their disposal though
First thing I thought of was, “Huh, business is business,” but it also makes me think quickly as also a little counter to Sony refusing to license a game on the PS3 unless it had exclusive content (or I guess it’s actually along the lines of “not exactly the same game on both platforms”).
Oh course, saying that, I can think of exceptions to what’s being said but coming first to PSN then being refused to 360 is just silly.
The thing with what sony is doing is that it’s good for ps3 gamers when we get a game a few months late it’s nice if the devs could give us a little extra and not give us a half assed port. Another thing is that when the game releases late the price is still $60 for ps3 gamers while xbox gamers have to pay way less for it so extras should be included.
What m$ is doing is holding back the gaming industry. There is a reason ea is making an exclusive shooter for the ps3
here is a quote from eurogamer:
“Not all agree, however. One representative from a publisher who wished to remain anonymous told Eurogamer Microsoft’s policy blocks developers from taking advantage of other platforms’ strengths.”
Can’t wait for xbots to make sony, a company that has a 1000000x more knowledge about technology then them, seem wrong.
Yea, the thing with Sony is just as DMAN said. Sony only require extra stuff IF the game had an exclusivity deal paid for by MS. We had to wait either a year or a month so it’s understandable that we get compensated for it.
Those are quite different business approaches and I prefer Sony’s. With MS’s current attitude and way of handling exclusivity they gonna have major issues come next gen.
MS won’t have a year lead anymore (no way Sony are gonna allow that to happen twice) and publishers will think twice before screwing Sony and their gamers over.
I do not think they are screwing over sony, devs are in the business to make money, and even though the ps3 has better hardware muiltplat games sell better on the 360. As a company you do what is best for the company, and unfortunately the stock holders. Living in a capitalistic society means it is all about the money.
I’ve suspected this for a long time, We all know that the PS3 has a lot of potential that has been pushed aside because of Microsoft. It’s just not fair to the gamer’s or the developers that they have to put up with this. I wish the PS3 got as much love as the 360 does but with things like this, It’s never going to happen.
I have both consoles but play mainly on my 360.
I accept that the DVD format for 360 has reached its limit. Whether I accept what a Sony rep says about it holding back games is another thing. Both companies are happy to spin things for their own advantage.
I expect that multi-disc games on the 360 will become more and more commonplace to accommodate larger games as a solution to the DVD limitations. We are already seeing them on the 360 with titles such as LA Noire and Mass Effect 2 being multi-disc.
The end point of all this is that MS might jump earlier with their next console than they might otherwise with Bluray or some proprietary large capacity disc format.
I have agree with this. And Kinect, although it also was made to face Sony’s Move, it was really made to extend the already limited lifetime.
We have yet to see Kinect’s true potential but even with a great launch, the 360 is already losing it’s momentum.
In terms of exclusive titles, the 360 can’t do much more than Gears 3. although impressive and up to par with the likes of UC3, this really is the limit and it is not impressive when you take a look at what PS3 exclusives will be in the future (Agent, Last Guardian).
MS knows they have to rely on Multiplat titles, mostly the CoD franchise since it will sell so well.
I replied to you since you seem like the only one who you can have a reasonable un-biased conversation around here.
But I’m sure Nigel and Dialga will come any moment with their essays.
(probably won’t now since I brought it up.)
Ahem…”Inferior Technology?”
The refusal to allow cross-platform gaming? The “decision to hold the industry back thanks to inferior technology”?
If there’s a system capable of running something so simple as universal custom soundtracks, working universal voice chat and cross-game chat versus a system that can’t do anything like that due to tech limitations, there’s a pretty clear picture of which console is the “inferior technology.”
The PS3′s only cross game option is badly-implemented text chatrooms, & building a system that apparently can’t handle something so simple as universal custom soundtracks, separating out the memory AND the processors so the damn thing’s purposely difficult to code for. Who’s holding what back?
Microsoft is a business, and it just so happens they wear that mark on their sleeve, unlike Sony who apparently wants you to believe they’re the good guy…moments before they sue you for installing Linux on your PS3 and then remove the ability to do so, Installing spyware on computers when people put in a Sony CD into their CD tray, & forcing the Bluray tech and using their fanbase to launch Bluray (they even say that, proudly, at one of the E3).
Yet, Microsoft’s the bad guy? Yeah, OK. Thanks for the laugh there, Rob.
The console is only as good as the game it plays can be a good way to summarize this.
But in a way you’re right, MS holds back the gaming industry as a whole for being the least common denominator and Sony Holds back itself for building such a troublesome architecture.
Although by now most First Party developers should be used to it by now, this really affected it at the beginning of this gen and keeps on affecting it now for a couple of third party devs.
Then again, you really should take this article with a grain of salt since the one who is insulting MS is well…..Sony.
I seriously doubt that Microsoft is holding the gaming industry back. Sony is just jealous that they’re not the top dog anymore & that Microsoft is popular over them within both developers & fans.
As far as saying something like, “we don’t have any similar polices like that or anything of the sort,” Bullcrap! They even used to have such polices back in the PS1 & PS2 days!
It’s well known that Sony won’t allow any games previously made for the 360 to be released on PS3 without a bunch of additions being made to make it stand out. This is why games released later for the PS3 (a huge chunk of Bandai Namco’s catalogue could be used as an example) get extra features, characters and content that never makes it to the 360 version as DLC, even though there’s often references to them in the 360 code, suggesting content has been deliberately withheld.
This is also why many games released simultaneously for both are often weaker on PS3; it is the harder system to optimise code for, and the PS3 version absolutely cannot be delayed unless the developer wants to make extra work for themselves and make 360 buyers angry.
With Japanese games in particular, the 360 is thought of as a machine for ‘beta’ versions of games. The reason so many games were made for 360 first, especially in Japan, is because MS were there to pay for short-term exclusivity, thus funding the development of games in the first place (so yeah, MS like some exclusivity, but I’m not sure how this particular scenario stifles creativity) to try to get a foot in the door in Japan.
Now that the PS3 is catching up with the 360 in sales, it looks like Sony are reverting back to lying again. How does Blu-ray capacity relate to PSN and Xbox Live Arcade? Oh, it doesn’t. Oops!
Catching up with sales? The ps3 has been outselling the 360 for some time in every territory except NA.
Indeed PS3 has completely outsold the Xbox the last few years, now they are near even [even though the Xbox was released a full year before the PS3 and allot of the Xbox sales are repeat buys by people with RROD, Ive bought 3 for example and lots of my friends have bought multiple]
PS3 has been outselling the 360 for a while now, Get your $hit straight
oh man, first:
“Next Generation doesn’t start until we say it starts…”
and now this?… just priceless XD
sony, the best comedian ever
Good thing I came a bit late to this topic as it seems a staff member had to step in to obviously referee this comment section. While I won’t add too much to this discussion – it is a bit frightening to see some who defend their console that they purchased and aren’t even being paid by said company on this website [and this is focused at the fanboys not Gamers who own both HD consoles]. I do agree with some of your comments that this was instant flamebait but most articles on this website can’t be helped due to comparison analysis and what this website is about.
Now I will toss my two cents on this article but like I said it really isn’t going to add to the discussion I guess and be nice, I’m still new here (this will be my 4th post here).
This excerpt might be a bit vague in it’s meaning, especially since it’s from a Sony exec with his honest opinion. The same could be said from a Microsoft exec who might point the finger and say that the split pooling system of the graphics cards ram is what is holding back the PS3′s advancements.
It’s negligible though in my opinion. Even though each consoles has it’s weaknesses, they do seems to have more pluses thereof. Although the disc medium is something people like to bring up on the 360, multiple discs are not unheard of, especially from PC owners (Riven and UT2004 were freakin 6 discs!) Production costs keep getting lower and lower every year on DVD’s and Bluray discs are going down in prices as well (I remember them costing between $30 – $40 each in the beginning and now they are substantially cheap, love the $10 sales).
The PS3 has a split ram interface (512mb split between the GPU and CPU) and what people believe is that due to this, graphics will be inferior to the 360. Not so, due to the SPU’s on the thing. Also, like most exclusive games (and some 3rd/2nd party) per system, some devs take advantage of what’s available and given to them and try to find ways to tweak and squeeze every last drop out the system to the best of their ability.
We’ve come a long way people, just look at Anti-Aliasing on the consoles. In the beginning of the 360 and PS3, we had no AA. Later the 360 got MSAA x4 (max it could do) and the PS3 grabbed quincunx for a while. Now we are doing MLAA on PS3 (and 360) and now even FXAA on 360 (and probably PS3).
These consoles still have some magic and graphic surprises in them despite being a bit “older hardware” . It’ll only gets better as it seems. Recent Multiplatform games like Crysis 2 and Deus Ex Human Revolution are really showing off how things are going along – exclusive games are pushing the boundries all the time now
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You remind me of me once… long long ago, when I still had that vigour of trying with all my intellectual might to get a constructive and meaningful discussion out of these guys. But alas, this website sucks the soul out of you and turns you to a zombie troll! aka zombtrolls! or trombies!
Go! cancel your registration while you still can before it’s too late!
Common symptoms associated with transmogrifying into a tromby includes: light headedness, nausea, blurry vision, erectile dysfunction, inability to spell correctly, incomprehensible grammar. At the later stages all you can think about is delivering massive damage to the other party’s ego.
You said it better than anyone could. Word.
Hahhahahahahah! Xbox fanboys getting butthurt now! Microsoft are money eating jerks that only want your credidcard and cash, there huge ignorants and don’t deserve the time to argue with them abowt the 360.
Please. Sony’s just jealous that they’re not the top dog like they were back in the last two generations of the gaming industry. So they try to badmouth their competitors at every turn in order to get people to sympathize with Sony.
And this certainly isn’t the first time that they’ve done that towards Nintendo or Microsoft. IMO, they’re just making themselves look worse instead of better.
And FYI, Sony has had such practices back in the PS1 & the PS2 days (plus even now with the PS3 like I explained earlier). So did Nintendo back in the NES & SNES days.
Yea right you wish bro.Go troll somewere else.
Lol Sure Man Sure, Whatever You Say Horn
LOL. Just as expected. Both you & “ThatGuyChris” are getting mad at me because you don’t want to hear the truth. Typical.
Lol, Mad? ~Gasp~ NEVER :O Lol.. No but seriously, The truth? you mean the utter bullsh*t by that right?
True to that…. :]
This made me laugh
lmao
@Loghorn I think is the other way around, your trying to deny the truth because your in microsofts bed. And that your full of crap.
Agreed, He’s Blowing M$ for sure and is too blind to see the REAL Truth.
No, I’m not in “Microsoft’s bed.” I’m just calling out Sony for their BS. They ALWAYS act like they’re better than everyone else (like Nintendo & Microsoft; in which Sony are truly NOT better).
Like I said before, they’re just mad & now want to do some damage control. They always had these kind of practices when they were leaders back with PS1 & the PS2, & they even still do with the PS3 (such as making sure they they have more content for PS3 versions after they get ported over to their system for PS3). What MS is doing is business, nothing more. What’s wrong with having everyone having equal content?
People like you & Battlefieldfan7 are dumber than mud if you think that Sony is innocent & perfect in which they don’t have similar practices (in which they do).
But they ALWAYS are better than everyone else lol so why not act like it?
@PS3FANBOY
the PS3 has better hardware than the 360…technically.
let me tell you the story of a console from way back when called the Atari Jaguar. at the time it had 64-bit graphics using a combination of a 32-bit graphics processor and some ingenious design of the processor where it could share memory and processing with the graphics unit to create 64-bit graphics (at the time it was all anybody talked about) and they made sure everyone knew it was better than Sega and Nintendo (sound familiar?) but problems arouse when developers tried to make games on the new console, the architecture was just too different from what they had been using on all the other consoles (really starting to sound familiar?) so even though they had this amazing console that was far and between the most advanced console on the market the games developed for it were a train wreck with very few games even coming up to the standards of the Saturn (with even less games going above) the difference between the PS3 and the Jaguar is simple, money. at the time Atari couldn’t sustain keeping the console a float with no one buying it but since Sony had the capital from the PS2 they could keep it going in the hopes that it would turn around (and it has since developers have slowly begun to better understand the PS3 and it’s internals) but still very few cross-platform games are able to surpass their 360 counterparts (many still can only just barely meet the same standards) with many more falling lower because the system just isn’t as developer friendly than the xbox and the power difference is almost completely negligible. (seriously look at the internals, sure the processor is much bigger but the GPU is almost the same power wise as the 360 so that extra bit of processing is still going to get bottle necked by the GPU.)
Where have you been the last couple of years?? The differences on multiplats nowadays are negligible and now most quality multiplats look better on the PS3! Not to mention multiplats in the vast majority of cases sucks ass! It’s the exclusives that matters and PS3 got the best of them and they prove how much more the PS3 can do than the 360.
@Loghorn, You’re no different than mrf@ilbot… You’re clearly M$s B**th and YOU Are the one that’s jealous that Sony is a billion times better than that greedy, ignor@nt M$ that doesn’t give a damn about people but only their creditcard/money. How is microsoftt better huh? By bribing the devs so they make the failbox version of a game better? Lol, You and everyone else that’s a microb*tch are just full of cr*p like thatguychris said. And whether you like it or not failbox will NEVER be better than Sony. Lol, They wish they could be anywhere near to awesome as Sony.And You would see for yourself with those ret@rded eyeballs of yours that the PS3 Version of ALL Games would be far superior than those of failbox if Microsoft actually stopped bribing devs… cause that’s all they can do.. That’s how they accomplish things Only bribe.. They know they won’t beat Sony Anyway else.. Lol all you failbox lo$ers getting PWNED 24/7…One day you’ll realise which is better.. until then.. You’ll be getting pwned by Sony.. just like you are now.
@PS3FanBoy
back up your information, you say that they’re better but you don’t actually say why, it’s like mac fanboys, even though you can get all the software (including OSX) on a normal PC and all the internals are identical to a (very weak) intel PC, they still shell out 2 grand for a computer worth less than $500. give me a reason for why you believe that the PS3 has better games, all you say is that “it’s better”
here’s a few good reasons that it’s better:
1. backwards compatibility with PS/2 games (scratch that, no longer supported)
2. installing other OS to the PS3 (oh wait they removed that too)
3. at least they don’t sue people for illegitimate reasons (oh wait they totally did that too)
4. on the plus side you can actually put your own hard drive in a PS3 instead of shelling out way too much money for an xbox drive…
5. free online
6. Blu-Ray capabilities
7. great games like God of War, Uncharted, Killzone, and Resistance
@Loghorn Your still full of crap. Just plese stop talking nonsense and just deal with it. Sony is not trying to be better then eneyone and i din’t sai there angels, microsoft are jerks and full of BS more then sony, bribeing developers so they can make games better for 360 and not giveing a crap abowt the ps3 and what it offers. Your sir are dumber than mud if you realy think what you post is true, nuff said for one day.
Sure. Whatever you say, bro. Whatever you say.
You Know He’s Right.
@Loghorn Sure no prob, bro you just keep ignoring what people sai and think whatever you want. Its a free world after all.
Im pretty sure its Sony who is now FINALLY protecting an inferior technology AKA PSN :/ Sony will never get my credit card info on its network, thats for sure.
My PS3 is only used for blu rays and the occasional PS3 exclusive game, other than that, most of my gaming is done on 360.
BTW, I just got Dead Island yesterday (Fri, 9-2) and am loving it thus far! I look forward to LOT’s comparisons! http://twitpic.com/6f39if
Remember when Team Bondi stated that they had two extra desks on LA Noire? Of course they bashed Sony saying it’s because Sony limited them, but how did Sony limit them when it was less than 25GB. A dual layered Bluray disc is 50GB.
It’s a cheap tactic. Since Microsoft has such a small disc size, they use this to their advantage. Either release day one with the exact same content or the developer/publisher can’t put their game on the system.
If you can’t win. Force the competitor with better hardware to be on equal terms.
Actually, little known fact here:
Majority of PS3 games have mandatory installs, and they all vary in size depending on the requirements of the game, but there is also another factor that they have to work with and that is Sony has regulations in place which limit the amount of space studios are allowed to use on the hard drives.
This was one of the challenges that I.D. software was facing with their game Rage. They had to bargain with Sony to get the allotment of hard drive space for their game.
I wouldn’t be surprised if L.A. Noire’s Team Bondi was also a victim of these limitations and had to remove or reduce the amount of original content for the game.
Just another side note. I understand why there are limitations put in place by Sony for the amount of HD space. It’s got it’s pros and cons about it.
Silly Blueray latency limitations. I’m sure that given even more time for the technology to mature, the read speed will no longer be an issue, but as it stands, mandatory installs are here to stay for the current generation Playstation.
This is not an issue with DVD technology, but the limitation in capacity is definitely obvious. HD DVD should be resurrected simply for xbox games.
There are plenty of games that have no mandatory install. All I really need to say is Uncharted, Uncharted 2, and more than likely, Uncharted 3.
Mandatory install is a crutch. Most developers use it as a form of laziness.
Damn I knew MS was strict with their LIVE and everything from when Portal 2 wasn’t allowed cross-console play (which I honestly prefer over crossgame chat) and FF14 but I didn’t know they legit don’t publish shit that comes to PS3 first…they are being kinda hypocritical since all the DLC i hear about CoD and some other games is always on Live first. MS needs to loosen its hold on LIVE, because eventually people will realize that paying $60 for online play isn’t worth it if on PSN and even the PC and WIndows (MS owned lol) start to get more crossconsole games.
I am surprised to see that SONY responded that directly though haha, and am interested to see how MS reacts. I thought that LA Noire had extra content on it, and a few other games too before Xbox got them, and XBOX let them through though. I might not be understanding the “MS wont publish them” line? Did XBox never get that extra PS3 case? Didn’t ACB give PS3 the DLC too with Da Vinci? Xbox never got that? I never realized that MS just doesn’t want to share.
Or is Sony just embellishing the truth to make it sound worse than it actually is? I honestly don’t know so can somebody fill me in (in lamen’s terms) about MS’ policies, or is what is written above basically it?
First off, I’m pretty sure it is that Microsoft has the right to refuse games that don’t follow parity, not that they outright will.
I’m also sure that Sony would be doing the same thing if Microsoft wasn’t. Sony can come back and tell me this when they optimize their OS, make good on their “does everything” slogan and adds things like cross-game chat and streaming music in-game, and can fix things like the ram shortage.
The PS3 may have SOME more advanced hardware but the 360 shines when it comes to online play, friends, and community, while it still keeps up with the PS3 in terms of game performance, and often times, graphics.
LOL! Shines when it comes to online play? community? Yeah, community of 2 year olds that is. -_-
LOL, your comments show me that they are quite prevalent on PSN. I’ve yet to meet nearly as cool of people on PSN as I’ve met through people on LIVE.
Lol, Since when did live had cool ppl?? 90% Dumb@sses. Pffft, PS3 Online Way Better. But here each to his own now.. If you prefer playing with morons/kiddies.. then you might wanna go for Live.. If you wanna play with a more mature community.. Then PS3
It’s Really Simple
Live= 90% Kids
PSN= 90% Adults
Yes, PSN obviously has kids too but not as much as Live is infested with.
I have a feeling that your bashing something you know little about. If its not me playing with cool people, its the people I meet through my best friend who finds them, and he has found quite a few cool people.
The funny part is that I seem to see a lot more little kids yelling about PS3 now then I do about Xbox 360. Not to mention your Constant baseless bashing of the Xbox every chance you get makes it hard for me to believe the PSN has so many more adults.
Your right about one thing though, each community has its share of kids and immature players, but the majority does not reside solely on LIVE. In fact, they probably all about equal each other. I’ve dealt with just as many annoying players on PC, LIVE, and PSN.
You can go ahead and consider me a part of the 10% of PSN that is consisted of kids. It doesn’t matter, I’m Not. And if all are equal then Live doesn’t “Shine” when it comes to online play, Community.. Since they’re best known for immature players/Kids. I’d agree with “They all have equal amount of kids” but when it comes to saying LIVE is better.. That’s just not right. After all.. LIVE IS Known for all the little kids that it’s infested with. So Let’s just say PSN And LIVE Both have the equal amount of adults and kids playing. I’d actually agree if ppl say Xbox And PS3 are equal in general.. But when it comes to Xbox being “Superior”.. Then No.
@BattleFieldfan7…. Like it or not, XBL is better. It has more features than PSN, which means its better. Now you can argue about PSN pricing, but that just means it offers more value. And the whole kids/immaturity playing online. Your playing online mute who you don’t like, and continue enjoying your game. Or you could join a party and play with friend you already know (not available for all games for PSN)
When I said it had a better online, I was mostly referring to LIVE allowing me to better connect with my friends, giving me better options to deal with, rate, mute, and avoid the kids, as well as a more stable, and safer environment to play in. When I said equal, I meant the amount of annoying players. You don’t have to be a kid to be a poor player.
By community I meant how connected I am to news and the big names among the Xbox staff (such as Major Nelson, Stepto, and the many programs documenting games and giving tips), not to mention community play dates and celebrity events. I’ve also had a much better experience communicating on online forums and in games with many players.
When PSN better connects me to my friends and the news, and puts a team of active enforcers who I can recognize and interact with, then maybe I can promote the PS3 as “superior”. But until then the Xbox 360 has a major leg up in features that the PS3′s more advanced hardware cannot make up for in an age when the internet is becoming more integrated into the gaming experience.
LOL!!!!! XBL Is NOT Better, Open your eyes. No matter whatever you say, get over it xbox is not better and never will be.. Not gonna happen. You May like it yourself if you like hearing little Boys that sound like little girls ragequit or yap 24/7 with their high pitch voices.. then that’s upto you. But You Can’t say it’s better overall than PSN. And I don’t even have to pay for it. Even Better, Awesome Community And Free.. Why the F#ck would PSN not be better? Not to mention how much of a failure xbox is, They breakdown wayy more than PS3. So I Honestly don’t see ONE Good reason why XBL would be better. So Stop this arguement. It’s either they’re both Equal or PS3 is better.. And I’m not pulling this outta nowhere. It’s a fact that PS3 Is technically stronger/better than xbox. Also, I Love the PS3 Exclusives.. Nothing like those crappy xbox ones. And as for Community again.. I’ve tried both.. and I no longer own a failbox. Thank God!
When psn will have crossgamechat,voice messages,musicingame,avatars,the xbox interface,the bio,the rep,avoid or prefer players,retro,ect. Then talk battlefieldfan7
tsk tsk, Your honestly so tied to Sony hardware that you can’t admit a simple fault. XBL Is better, it offers more features, thus its better. PSN is cheaper (free) offers more value, but not better. I can’t fathom why your have such a hard time understanding that. And kids yapping and yelling, ‘MUTE THE GAME’. And I don’t see how that’s a problem, the only game I experience that in is COD, and since your obviously a Battlefield fan how is that a problem? Never heard kids screaming in SupCom2, Forza 2 or 3, Gears, or Any of the EA/2k sports series, or any of my fighting games. You should really broaden your taste to other games buddy.
And come on, crying about the Failure rate of the X360 is so 2007, its almost 2012, I can’t remember the last time someone said something about the Xbox breaking on them.
So lets sum up my argument.
More Features = Better
Cheaper Price = Value
And honestly I don’t see what the problem is with kids. PS3 are selling like crazy, even you’ve admitted in the comments below, so more kids will be coming your way.
both PSN and Live had idiotic people, kids, whatever…you know you can always just mute them, or ignore them and join another game. I have met worse people on PSN to be honest, but i am not going to bash it because of what a few people do…stop being a damn fanboy
Live and PSN both are filled with kids. I play online simply to play online, I don’t thrive online and make friends with kids ‘all over the world’ (BTW PSN would be more internationally played than XBox) and i simply mute everybody else. I don’t care to hear a bunch of kids playkng online whining, cursing, making sound effects etc. (This is all on PSN btw as I don’t have much experience on Live at all, but I’m pretty confident that it’s true on both).
If PSN has less children playing its probably only because PS3 has much more niche type games that the adult audience would be interested in. I mean Cod and games like that are immensely popular, and lets face it CoD and Halo and Gears attract more kids than adults. (Not a stab at MS just saying, PS3 has its own games that attract kids, including CoD).
I know people playing online are immature, and curse unnecessarily and all that other crap that comes with being a kid. But they are kids and I don’t expect them to be talking like “Oh my, this fellow has just penetrated my skull with his AK.” I expect him to be pissed and curse.
So 360 has disc space limitations that prevent large games, while PS3 has RAM limitations that prevent such features as cross-game chat. I guess it’s a matter of picking your poison.
But, really though, does it matter after 6 years? New consoles will be out soon enough, save your hostilities until then lol.
This comment right here! This is what I’ve been saying in a nutshell. I love my 360 for one reason, and my PS3 for another. I’m surprised that with access to the internet, people can still be so blind to the pros and cons of both consoles. Its one thing to be bias or have preference but another to be an extreme fanboy.
Agreed.
My reasons to PS3 over Xbox is simply a combination of more features (non game related), blu ray, controller, free online, and tbh I prefer Sony exclusives.
Xbox over PS3 (not my reasons but my cousin’s) controller, better online, I’m guessing he prefers Gears, Halo, Fable, Forza over PS3 exclusives, and more of his friends have Xbox.
It all depends on what kind of games you want, and what you plan to do with your system. Notice that neither of our reasons were because multiplats on x console games perform/play/look better than on y console. In the end none of us receive satisfaction because we played the ‘better version of a game’. We enjoyed what we played.
I understand fanboyism, I mean if you bought a system or prefer it over another system you want to defend your investment so that you don’t look stupid (at least that what i do/think). But there’s no reason to hate everyone who disagrees with you.
I could say that America is better than England because blah blah blah, and everyone on here from England would bash on America for blah blah blah. Nobody wants there choices insulted, and a little competition keeps things interesting. But some of these fanboys seem like they live and breathe their console like its life support.
I also doubt that a lot of you people buy as many games as you say you, I mean every couple of weeks I come on and see familiar names say that they will buy/bought some new game. Honestly how do you people afford that, please tell me as I would love to know so I can have so much free time as well while still being financially afloat. And also they must really not do anything else besides, eat, sleep, play, and then work/school. The typical teen/young adult probably has a lot of different things to do. The only time i could imagine myself being so free is when I was 10-14, when I got more freedom without all the stress and responsibilities. If I had rich parents I would totally spend all that free time playing video games, but then I would miss my friends.
God, this is just getting boring and predictable now. One company boasts that this console is better than that one, then a few weeks later, the opposition strikes back, and it’s now turned into a matter of “mine is bigger than yours”. Not that I ever really liked the console wars to begin with, as it just leads to…well, what the LOT staff has said. There honestly shouldn’t be so much venom in something like video games.
Hit the nail right on the head with that statement. Nothing but Sony marketing here folks.
As true as this is”Tell us something we dont know.
To be honest, that’s kind of a bitch move on Microsoft’s part
I think is Sony PS3 underestimate MS Xbox, if they selling point mention xbox360 are inferior and holding back, why I couldnt see much different at all with minor performance,
they didnt prove anything since 6 years ago, only have exclusive
Well Microsofts rules have backfired for them and the industry.
This is why the PS3 has more exclusives. Microsofts only seem to be times exclusives like Limbo while Sony’s stay exclusive like Joe Danger.
The Xbox is holding back this generation with it’s dated hardware. At least Sony had the forsight to include a HD as standard and have a storage medium that is large enough to hold this generations games. How many xbox games have to come on multiple disks. It was a risky move by Sony but its paid off.
Thats microsoft for you. They have always been the bully in the playground. Everyone else has said it all for me in the comments above. Nothing more to say.
What they say about Gran Turismo 5? (fail turismo 5) ?
Exclusive game, lag as hell (15 fps sometimes) , dont have interior view in all cars, MANDATORY INSTALL… 50 segs+ loading… its the microsoft fault? LOL at sony…
And the crap psn? its Microsoft fault too??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! JUST PATHETIC!!!
Sony are desperate… but dont have time in this gen to hold the might xbox 360.
On the LoT comparison GT5 didn’t go below 40FPS. The time that it was staying on 40FPS was odd as the rest of the time it was staying 60FPS under the same conditions. Let’s not forget that the time it was 40FPS, unlike Forza as they were out ahead the entire time, there were also a few cars on screen and GT5 has 16 cars at the same time with much better graphics while Forza only has 8.
GT5 generally maintained framerate in racing gameplay, it tended to drop framerate when in replay mode more than anything.
Not to mention: night and day real time cycle, atmospheric phenomena, night races and much more.
All things that Forza does not have.
It’s painful to develop for Sony and it’s painful to work with MS; so it all evens out.
Made me lol, although MS clearly should change this policy, I will mostly play on my Xbox and etc. but I don’t agree with this action.
DIE, Micro$oft, DIE!!!
Things like this should be illegal. It’s called black mailing. WTF?! MS has always been behaving like this since the IBM PC came out and Big Blue had the most idiotic idea on Earth to subcontract the development of PC DOS to that loser called Bill Gates. If it wasn’t for IBM Gates would be in the fields picking up tomatoes. Instead it killed the home and office computing industry with it’s crappiest OS on earth. Wonderful products like Commodore Amiga, Atari 2600, and others all vanished because of the way Gates managed to impose its junk into the PC clones. Only Apple with its mythical MacIntosh could survive, but was near bankrupcy as well.
But now the Vendetta is coming! MS is ages behind in the mobile devices market, and its good for fan boys only console is showing its physical limits. The Blu Ray drive has always been the superior point of the PS3. To put in place policies like the ones from MS is pure cowardly. As the old saying tells:
***If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the PORCH!***
MS would be better closing down all the entertainment division. It has just been a shithole for MS money, still damaging as usual all the industry. MS doesn’t know how to innovate, it only knows how to restrict the others good ideas! God if I hate that company.
@michelasso. Bravo. I could not of said that better myself.
Wow…
Despite my comment above being one of the few that was constructive, positive, and Gamer responsive (not fanboy responsive),
Now I question my reasoning of joining this website? Instead of having an adult discussion about the matter – it’s like a few who already said that this very article is straight fanboy flamebait and they are taking it hook, line, and sinker. Is this really how the people on LoT are?Where is the LoT staff from the beginning – I thought he was the ref here, did he get overwhelmed and run out the ring? Meh, at least there are a few on here that I appreciate your comments and adult attitude. Maybe DF might be a better website to do discussions like these when it comes to a comparison website…
It’s a website about comparing platforms, having fanboys on this site in pretty much a known fact.
But yeah you’re right, nearly 99% here are fanboys, even if they deny it.
Don’t get me wrong LoT, I like your H2Hs and I use your analysis to judge with version is better and which to buy and I thank you for all your hard work, but you have by far the worst community I’ve ever seen on a website.
@ twist3dm3rc
Worst community? your kidding right? Its the same on every gaming site the world over. Join N4G and you’ll see what I mean. OR, if your talking websites in general, join LULZSEC’s Ebaumsworld. You’ll be in for a shock. Harden up. We are a tame community by any standard!
Lol I think DF has its own fair share of fantrolls.
Like what TWIST3DM3RC said, these guys come with the territory. If you can’t appreciate them, start practicing selective reading.
Selective reading, I love the concept. I use it daily but never named the process. Anything with tons of “lols,” typos, caps lock, and any use of the word “fanboy” etc. are not worth reading. Those who say more with less get my votes and reads, and my support to keep on writing.
So many essays in the comments!!
I first bought a PS3 because I’ve always been a PlayStation guy (to stick with what I was comfortable with) but I was getting tired of the XBox 360 supplying better multi-platform games.
I bought my 360 when Black Ops came out because it was a mess on the PS3 and that’s not the fault of the PS3 (the same engine from Modern Warfare 2 was fine on PS3), it was the fault of the developer.
I realized lately that I hardly ever use my 360 because the PS3 has been “winning” more recently AND the exclusive PS3 games are more fun than the multi-platform games coming out. The only games I have for the 360 are L4D2, Tomb Raider and Black Ops… haha.
Some of you might know by now that I can’t stand screen tearing and it seems like more games are screen tearing on the 360, but not at all on the PS3 (games that come to mind are Crysis 2, Portal 2, Mortal Kombat, GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, Resident Evil 5, Just Cause 2 and LA Noire) Even though some of those games may “look” better due to a slightly higher resolution on the 360, but since they don’t tear on the PS3, the PS3 game is the version that looks better to me.
The other thing is… my favorite games happen to be exclusive to the PS3 (I’m not trying to diss MS here, so don’t get me wrong) Uncharted 2 and Infamous 2 were more fun than any multi-platform game I’ve played.
So yeah, I’m a fan of my PS3, but if a fun game comes out for the 360 (and has no screen tearing), I’ll pick it up and give it a try… I just haven’t been interested in what the 360 has had to offer.
Just as a side note: I honestly think that screen tearing should be banned from video games. Too many developers turn v-sync off in their games and it ruins the game for me. I seriously can’t even enjoy a game if it tears (even if it’s got the best graphics ever with the best gameplay and story). I wouldn’t mind if they toned down the graphics a little bit to get a good framerate with v-sync engaged. I’ve never purchased a game on any platform that has any hint of screen tearing… that’s just my personal policy (and I know I’m probably missing out on some good games, but the tearing would bother me too much to enjoy it anyway).
just buy a pc and turn vsync on… ez
oh… screentearing is microsoft fault too…. LOL
and btw… go play your red dead without grass omg!
Oh Look, Mrxbot’s Here:D
I have a PC, I don’t enjoy gaming on it and I’d rather use a controller (yes, I know I can use a controller on the PC, but it wouldn’t be very fair to try and play with a controller against people with a mouse and keyboard).
Also, I never said screen tearing is Microsoft’s fault. I said that the GAMES were tearing on the 360 version of the game (which is most likely the developer’s fault). Don’t get it twisted.
By the way… I WILL go play Red Dead without grass because it doesn’t tear and it looks just fine to me even without the extra grass.
Just a tip for you: You don’t sound smart using words like “ez”, “LOL” and “OMG”.
I’m not going to take someone seriously when they say things like that and I’m going to assume that said person doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Thumbs up if you’re reading this in 2011!!#!1!!
Ehhhhh, this rating system won’t really be a good thing tbh.
The majority of people here are fanboys and they’ll just thumbs down the comments their fanboy minds don’t agree with.
The minority of people here who have a point will just get thumbed down and if this is like the previous rating system on this site, it will block the comment.
Well I don’t think the comments should be blocked, leave that stuff for North Korea.
But why are you speaking about fanboys as “they”?
look rating system and tumbs i am request this feature a few week ago.
this system is good so we can rating and unlike spam or bad comment.
and i wish this site have bad rating limit so that account will disable or banned.
Uh oh buddy… don’t speak too harshly on yourself. You have a negative rating as we speak. This is just the internet after all – people voice their opinion, bicker, fight, and try to sway other to side with them or at least agree to disagree. After becoming a member on this website for no less than a week (been a sidelines watcher of this website for years now btw) – I’ve finally accepted the fact that one ratio exists on LoT. A 9 to 1 ratio actually – 90% of the community here believe the need to defend their one console they purchase with the mentality that “my console is better than yours” and only 10% are multi-console owners (like me and a few others) who give honest opinions on the matters at hand – moreso with a neutral or calm approach to conversations. Will it change, no. Is this rating system helpful – is metacritic user reviews helpful?
It’s best not to ask these type of questions and just let the chaos that often happens here roll by and then continue with our normal lives and cool headed talks contribute to the article. Which I’m sure no one really has any idea about anymore – what was this article about again? Doesn’t seem to matter as most comments after the article has been said and done often go to flamewar territory or off-topic discussions not really pertaining to the article itself.
I come to this site because I want to know which version is best for ME the consumer. I don’t care which console has more wins or loses, I have both consoles, so I’ll buy whatever game I want.
Isn’t that the purpose of doing these head2heads?
Not to some.
Like you for example
Nah, I meant you.
Me goes without saying but also you fit perfectly in this category.
I’m glad you realize you’re part of the problem but you shouldn’t try to bring me down to your level.
Even if you think I am.
lol that’s pathetic. You’re a hypocrite with no pride. You make a fool out of yourself as everybody knows what a fanboy you are, but your attempt at hiding it makes you look ridiculous.
Come out of the closet TWIST3DM3RC, just come out of the closet and be a proud fanboy.
Pathetic assumptions.
But if you really believe so, tell me what exactly am I a fanboy of if it’s so noticeable?
Like your rabid 360 fanboyism for example.
Of course that’s the only thing a ps3 fanboy can accuse me of.
It would be ironic and contradicting if you accused me of being a ps3 fanboy….. Not like you would care if I was a ps3 fanboy anyway
Agreed JUSTSPAZTIK, The only reason I go to this site is because i own both systems and i want to know what version of a multiplat game to buy.
The crap “vote system” is back… im leaving this site again… I have this fiking votes.
Maybe you should look at the reason why you are getting so many down votes instead of up?
@lens of truth check this out 14 minutes of leaked Borderlands 2 gameplay
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/03/borderlands-leak.aspx
Nice sexy ratings!!!! Wit woo!
sounds like whaa baby stuff here. “they got a little more so we dont want it at all, bah!”
Well… first i want to send my greetings to all the members of this site (users and staff)
I have been reading this site for some months but today i decide to register.
About this topic, i understand Microsoft politicy, even i´m not totally agree with them.
In my case, i have some close friends working in Namco-Bandai Japan, and they told me Microsoft and Namco made a contract that says Ps3 and 360 should get exactly the same content of Tekken 6 BR, so even Namco was working to add a “Clan Service and options” exclusively to Ps3, they haven´t be able to add it because that contract.
So of course i can understand Microsoft´s side, but i also understand they´re not doing any good to any users.
PS: Excuse me guys if my English is not so good or i make some mistake, english is not my native language.
you guys(the LOT staff, not users) should turn off the option to thumb up and rate your own comments. Just a thought
you see? look at that, gave myself a thumb down and a 5 star rating
why would they rate their own? they’re not the ones making useless comments
you get the fanboys who give themselves thumbs and stars
fanboyz are really destroying this site
I am not suprised by this Microsoft tactic a bit. The Xbox360 is outdated hardware with limited disc capacity that is holding back game developers from making the best games possible. This would show how lacking the Xbox360 really is compared to the Ps3. Microsoft knows this. This is why they are doing this.
My biggest issue with this topic is…………..where is Android123????? lulz.
both are pieces of crap compared to a high end gaming PC