August 22nd, 2011
Posted in 
The Truth Will Change You…
| System Breakdown | Xbox 360 Stats | PlayStation 3 Stats |
| Resolutions: | Up to 1080p | Up to 720p |
| # of Discs: | Single | Single |
| HD Install: | Optional | Mandatory (2899 mb) |
| Metacritic: |  |
|
| Watch / Download Video: |  |
 |
Welcome back for another exciting Head2Head! Just a few days ago we showed you the graphical differences between the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Today we’ve finished up our performance analysis and are ready to give you the details. Are you ready for the Revolution?
Graphics: Graphically, Deus Ex: Human Revolution looks absolutely amazing on both platforms. Edios did a great job with both of these versions and both look very polished and visually very close to one another. However, there are still some minor differences that we need to discuss. First on the list is Anti-aliasing. Judging from our analysis it appears the PS3 and Xbox 360 are using their traditional AA methods (PS3 2x MLAA and Xbox 2x MSAA) but with some proprietary engine customization intact. By looking at our images it’s obvious that the Xbox 360 is using some sort of edge smoothing technique which helps with some of the jaggies. While this method indeed helps with jaggies, it also makes the Xbox 360 version look a little less sharp then its counterpart in certain areas (hardly noticeable unless analyzed extensively). On the other hand, it appears the PS3 is using a custom 2x MLAA and some sort of anisotropic texture filtering. This technique does appear to make the PS3 look sharper then the Xbox 360 but with issues. Jaggies and slight artifacting become present in certain areas due to using this method, which is rather odd.
The gamma differences are minor but they are present. These differences are not reflected in our analysis because these calibrations can be adjusted, externally. Either through the “luminosity” setting in-game, or though your external device like T.V. or monitor. Again, we have and will always stick to the “out of box” method. Besides, we feel the developers need to take an initiative on that aspect (like Need for Speed: Hot Persuit or Dead Space 2 for instance).
The image quality and texture resolution is interesting indeed. On one hand we have the PS3 having a slightly better anisotropic filtering making some of the background elements look a bit sharper. In theory anisotrophic filtering works by preserving the “sharpness” of textures usually lost by mip-mapping, thus this type of filtering should also help with the minor aliasing issues on the PS3, but maybe the algorithm isn’t aggressive enough. On the other hand the Xbox 360 looks to have better shadows and SSAO implemented throughout. This could be observed by looking at the 4th rollover on the first page and the 2nd slider on the same page. Furthermore, there appears to be some extra lighting on the Xbox 360 as well, but this could be dynamic and is only noticeable in very limited areas of the analysis. On a positive note, texture resolution of the “higher resolution” mip-maps are unquestionably identical – this includes diffuse, normal, specular, detail etc. However, it does appear the Xbox 360 has a slightly more aggressive “lower resolution” mip-mapping approach. This can be seen by looking at the 2nd rollover on page two.
Bottom line is both versions look great, but as mentioned above, graphically the Xbox 360 version looks to be a bit more polished throughout. With better looking AA, more consistent SSAO, shadows, lighting and mip-mapping, the Xbox wins this category by a hair.
Performance: On the performance side of things, both versions managed to maintain a solid 30 FPS frame rate throughout. As you can see below, Deus Ex performed almost identically to one another in terms of frame rate and screen tearing. Having said that, enabling V-Sync on both versions eliminated any sign of screen tearing and performance hitches one would expect from such a beautiful and chaotic game. This category ended in a stale mate! Below are the average frame rate and screen tearing percentages our analyzer captured.
| Xbox 360 Frame Analysis | PlayStation 3 Frame Analysis |
| Clip 1 info: Length of clip: 3950 frames Average FPS of clip: 30.02 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 1 info: Length of clip: 3950 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.73 Percent of torn frames: 0.00 |
| Clip 2 info: Length of clip: 5008 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.89 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 2 info: Length of clip: 5008 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.59 Percent of torn frames: 0.00 |
| Clip 3 info: Length of clip: 4196 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.33 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 3 info: Length of clip: 4196 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.39 Percent of torn frames: 0.00 |
| Clip 4 info: Length of clip: 4594 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.16 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 4 info: Length of clip: 4594 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.33 Percent of torn frames: 0.00 |
| Global percent of torn frames: 0.0 Global average FPS: 29.60 |
Global percent of torn frames: 0.00 Global average FPS: 29.50 |
Loading: The loading category was cut and dry using our standard “out of box” approach. The PlayStation 3 version of Deus Ex: Human Revolution had an average load time of roughly 21 seconds, while the Xbox 360′s average load time was 35 seconds throughout 5 clips. PlayStation 3 wins this category easily. NOTE: the PlayStation 3 version of Deus Ex Human Revolution had a mandatory install of 2.9 GBs.
| PlayStation 3 Load Times | Xbox 360 Load Times |
| Sample 1: 22 Seconds | Sample 2: 32 Seconds |
| Sample 2: 23 seconds | Sample 2: 36 Seconds |
| Sample 3: 22 Seconds | Sample 3: 38 Seconds |
| Sample 4: 21 Seconds | Sample 4: 36 Seconds |
| Sample 5: 20 Seconds | Sample 5: 40 Seconds |
| Sample Average: 21.6 Seconds | Sample Average: 35.4 Seconds |
Rollover to see the Difference.
Move the Slider to see the Difference. Notice the Aliasing looks to be smoother on the Xbox
Rollover to see the Difference. Again, notice the Aliasing differences.
Rollover to see the Difference.
Move the Slider to see the Difference. Notice the SSAO on the Xbox.
Rollover to see the Difference.
Rollover to see the Difference.
Move the Slider to see the Difference.
Rollover to see the Difference.
Mouse over the image to see through our “Lens”.
Mouse over the image to see through our “Lens”.
More Roll Overs, Conclusion, Technical Score, Videos and Staff Choice on Page 2.
Pages: 1 2
Tags: :PS3, :Xbox 360, Analysis, Community, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Edios, Head2Head, Verdict Tie*To ensure color accuracy from the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii U output, the PlayStation 3 has RGB Full Range set to "Full" and Super White "On", and the Xbox 360 has Reference Level set to "Expanded" and HDMI Color Space set to "RGB". Our capture card we have captured segments from the AVS HD 709 . Blu-ray, HD DVD, & MP4 Calibration suite.
As you will see, each system matches each other at the SOURCE LEVEL. No contrast or gamma settings are manipulated before or after capturing our images/videos. We strongly believe that these types of corrections are done on a individuals preference and should not be adjusted by us. Finally, washed out looking images that are due to contrast or gamma differences will not have any influence on our final verdicts. Please Read through our F.A.Q page if you have any questions or concerns.*
FIRST! of what is to be an EPIC thread I’m sure. Now I’ll read the analysis!!!
“Judging from our analysis it appears the PS3 and Xbox 360 are using their traditional AA methods (PS3 2x MLAA and Xbox 2x MSAA) but with some proprietary engine customization intact”
/facepalm
mlaa would never be used in a game with alot of fine details and lettering. and no its not msaa its actualy quite obvious looking at any poly edges the gradients are way too smooth also the types of edges it targets msaa doesnt work with tone mapping yet the AA seems to make corrections for it.
i cant say for certain if its FXAA (though i’m 90% confident it is) but its DEFINITELY NOT mlaa or msaa.
That’s interesting. One would think you would hear more about this especially on the NeoGAF forums. Wasn’t Duke Nukem Forever the first game to implement FXAA for PC? BTW please show me where the developers confirm this for consoles, being relatively new and all. btw
“mlaa would never be used in a game with alot of fine details and lettering.” Hmm that’s weird I wonder what they used for Mess Effect 2 yeah it was 2x multi-sampling AA on the Xbox 360.. Weird right cause they would never use that in a game with alot of fine details and lettering
Still looking and I don’t see any conformation of FXAA being used on the console versions. Definitely pc but noting indicates the consoles are using it yet.
According to these guys, ME2-PS3 sports no AA at all, while ME2-X360 uses 2xAA:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Lmao that the dumbest thing ive ever seen, the PS3 is clearly using AA [better AA than the 360], can you not tell when a game isnt using AA lol? it looks horrible its very clear to see.
Nigel, you gotta give it up man. Go post on some other thread. 360 has got this one. It’s painfull to watch you struggle like this. I have both systems. And I am goin 360 because the results are obvious. (to most people).
I honestly think you GUYS at LOT are ONTO SOMETHING!
PS3 version looks much crisper from what i see on my friends console!He own both PS3 and MICRO$OFT 360!!
NIGEL and PS3FANBOY-you have my support!
From now on guys dont make false analysis.
I know that maybe MICRO$OFT pays you like IGN to make false decision for GAYBOX360 to win!
All after all enjoy!
Ivw got both systems lol, I can just see clearly which one is the winner XD
No it doesn’t but keep trying to fool yourself. also, stop speaking for the majority that never asked to be spoken for because they’re not thinking what you want them to think.
@myself
My previous post was meant to be a reply to Spell Checker concerning Mass Effect 2 and AA. The Reply feature of this website doesn’t work that good.
@Nigel
Even DF says that Mass Effect 2 on the PS3 does not use AA.
Read it carefully pal:
Mass Effect 2 = 1280×720 (2xAA, transparencies and effects not AA’d)
That means that only statics are being AA (big deal…)
despite ME2 having no AA on ps3, i did not really see much difference in any comparison videos that usually show how bad aliasing can be. that, and in the game it wasn’t that noticeable o_o
UPDATE: (Hard Drive Installation for Xbox 360)
For those just curious if the Xbox 360 hard drive install improved the loading time, the answer is…
YES.
Dramatically.
Initial loading time for the 1st scene took about 32 seconds, but after the hard install, the load time was cut almost in half to just 17 seconds.
In fact, the load times, so far never exceeded more than 20 seconds after the installation.
I thought MLAA was MLAA not 2x or 4x or 8x etc.
Plus I wouldn’t go as far to say it’s a traditional method of AA on PS3.
@Badassbab Are you hot?
Badassabab not Badassbabe lol
The digital foundary face off is up.
Seems like LOT were spot on with their tie award, frame rate is identicle across both console versions.
So much for this ’360 slows down more’ scare mongering that the desperate ps3 fanboys tried to whip up lol.
Their conclusion was pretty much the same as LOT’s, pretty much a tie, but i still got the impression they preferred the 360 version by a hair.
Pc version wins overall.
Shame you haveto enjoy the worst version while I enhjoy the best ;P
Based on LOTs’ and DF findings AA is indeed better on the 360. Are you able to swallow some humble pie and admit just maybe the 360 has better AA?
LOT and DF pretty much came to the same conclusion. Although I’m confused why DF didn’t mention the SSAO and shadow differences. Take a look at this image form DF gallery.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/dfcomparsion.jpg/
Maybe because X360 has problems with shadows that some may consider as “better” shadows. If you watch all screens on DF you can see few objects on X360 with “better” shadows are really glitched not better. For eg.
http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/3/9/2/8/6/4/360_022.jpg.jpg – vending machine also check PC screens they are similar to PS3 not X360.
If you check gameblurb’s comparison there is a screen of crates and forklift. It looks like better shadows on X360 but after few seconds you realise that those shadows are too big and unnatural.
Same thing goes for second slider (on LoT) on first page (with comment “Notice the SSAO on the Xbox”). There is a strong red light on left (right for Jensen) that’s why there is less shadow on PS3 and I think on X360 is another shodow glitch.
In my opinion PS3 is better, less blurry and without shadow glitches.
if what i’m reading is correct about FXAA… then no. that is if PS3 is using MLAA, else it will be yes.
There’s no way MLAA is a “traditional” AA method on the PS3, because MLAA up until now has been completely restricted to ATi GPUs… and the PS3 has a (rather weak) nVIDIA GPU.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution marks the very first time AMD/ATi shared MLAA with a developer so they could implement it in a game natively for all GPUs. Previously, MLAA was only an anti-aliasing solution ATi users had to force on in the driver settings.
So the writer of this article is clearly a bit confused on this subject.
You do know little big planet 2 and a few other games on the PS3 use MLAA right? Don’t get too high and mighty my friend, I love my 360 too but I like my PS3 as well. Both consoles produce exceptionally graphical games that are exclusives and (due to this website) both consoles show their pluses and minuses on various multiplatform games -boiling down to what YOU feel is the reason for picking up the game on your preferred platform.
I am rather impressed that Deus ex HR has FXAA on my 360. Thought that was only a PC thing but these consoles sure do have a few surprises left in them I guess. Although I might get the 360 version, I’m definitely will get the PC version to do some comparisons of my own (despite me knowing which is superior
)…
There is no such thing as ’2x MLAA’. MLAA produces edge-smoothing that varies in imitating between 0x and 16x MSAA. Also, digitalfoundry says the Xbox 360 version is using a form of FXAA, NOT 2xMSAA as LOT have proposed.
I think you guys need to read up about rendering techniques again instead of making guesses.
tnx for the delete.
WHAT? delete from what?
Clear PS3 win, game is the same EXCEPT the 360 version has a blur filter and is less detailed and not sharp compared tot he PS3′s cleared moe detailed picture and the Xbox’s gamma is too dark while the PS3′s is perfect. PS3 win FTW
Just because a few bum boys for LOT choose the Xbox they dont decide who wins, the votes do, and its a CLEAR PS3 WIN
One big thing LOT seem to have missed or ignored is that the Xbox version stutters and has minor performance problems while the PS3 doesnt…
hhmm seems lense of truth arent very trust worthy and dont do their comparisons for accurate [the settings they use are copletely off for both versions, and almost always the PS3 version of games, which is very dumb lol]
It looks like Lense of truth just try and make it so they keep Xbox fanboys happy AND ps3 fanboys happy so neither leave the site ahd the site gets mor traffic
Becuase lets face it if they didnt then people may leave the site so they are just tryng to keep everyone happy and keep both sets of fanboys coming back to the site to keep up the traffic so they get $$$ from their ads.
LOT arent accurate, they are just trying to generate traffic and keep people on their sight, they arent trust worthy and dont do comparisions as accurate as they could with simple comparison breaking things such as calaberating the picture properly and ignoring performance problems on either version.
If Xbox fanboys are unhappy, theyle do all they can to make them happy so they stay, if PS3 fanboys are unhappy, then they wil do all they can to make them stay, even if its not accurate they dont care aslong as they have traffic on their sight.
LOT arent proffesional
Nigel you are a f*cking moron. Stop with your retarded “have traffic on their sight” BS. LOT has stated many times they have FULL TIME JOBS and do the site in their spare time. If you’ve been a regular here you would know that but you just started commenting. Do you really think a small independent website can support 6 people and their families? Do you know anything about the internet? If you don’t like the site, stop commenting 50 times a day.
And no, votes to not decide a winner. If that was the case the PS3 would win every time because of its legion of fantards that vote for the PS3 because, guess what, that’s the only system they own! If you don’t have an Xbox why are you here?! Your mind is already made up.
I have visited this site for a few years my friend, I have only recently started commenting as I have a new job and have nothing to do but sit at a desk lol. And Fnaboys like Android keep me more than amused
Thanks for the compliments Chris, and yes, the votes decide the winner, thats the entire point in them.
And you Nigel play littlest pet shop and barbie games LOL
@Nigel
ROFL!! LOT doesn’t decide who wins????? Uhhh on this site, YES THEY DO!!
Clear graphics victory for XBOX 360. The loading is completely irrelevant and the overpriced internet read blu ray player should lose points for M A N D A T O R Y install. Did you get that fantard M A N D A T O R Y install. Face it fantard. In a direct comparison of identical games XBOX kicks the overpriced internet ready game machine impersonating blu ray player’s azz every time. FACT.
YET ANOTHER GRAPHICS WIN FOR XBOX 360 BABY!!! THE KING OF CONSOLES 6 YEARS RUNNING!!
LMFAO the votes decide who wins you dimmilio and the votes show that the PS3 is the winner.
Plus if look look at all other comparisons aswell as the PS3 being sharper and more detailed than the blurry Xbox version the Xbox has performance issues like stuttering the PS3 doesnt have.
Its a clear PS3 win lol deal with it bro.
The LOT staff opinion are exactly what they are opinions, they dont determine whihc one wins, thats exactly what the votes are for, and the PS3 wins lol. Have fun
The votes here are currently showing the 360 version ahead nigel
So that’s sorted finally, a 360 win and finally the fanboys have accepted it.
@ Android & Nigel. The votes mean nothing.
@ Nigel. Stop being an idiot. You’re getting almost as bad as buying1999.
@Monkeyspoon
For once I agree with you Monkeyspoon, well not about me being an idiot LOL, but turabout is fare play since I regularly call you a fantard. The votes mean nothing. LOT staff are PROFESSIONALS. Poor little desperate Nigel. Mark this down someone….Buying1999 actually agreed with Monkeyspoon on Aug 23 2011 on the topic of votes mean nothing.
No lol, the whole reason for the votes is to decide who wins, and the PS3 wins lol, look at other comparisions aswell, its a clear as day win the the PS3
The LOT staff’s opinions are exaclt what they say themselves are, opinions, the whole point in the votes is to determine who wins, and liek I said even with the unproffesional H2H ignoring performance problems on the 360 the PS3 wins:D
@buying1999 You sir are a retard, nuff said.
@Nigel
It’s amazing the levels of idiocy you stoop to on some of these posts. You went on to LOT…. to note that LOT is unprofessional??? You realize you are on their website, right? And I find it pretty amusing that you have the stones to speak down to a group of people who gave you the right to post on their website about the ridiculous sh*t you write day in and day out. Absolutely amazing nigel. When you create your own “PS3FTW” website, then make demeaning remarks toward other sites and their staff. Until then, get a job/life and quit wasting cyberspace with your petty misspelled words and bad grammar.
P.s. Your opinion means drastically less to anyone on this website than the opinions of its hosts.
@ Burger
Your opinion means nothing lol, doesnt change the truth ;D
@Nigel
Well if votes are what determines the winner then the internet ready blu ray player still loses to the 360. Check the votes moron. YET ANOTHER win for 360, even by using the meaningless fantard Nigel’s standard of votes.
“Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made.” -John Carmack
@ Young one
Hahahaa delusion is as funny as a potato in your moms ass XD
@Nigel
Well at least that comment about opinions meaning nothing wasn’t directed at me, apparently. I’m not sure who this “burger” you speak of is, but he ought to be pissed.
Also, congrats on making the PS3 fanbase look absurdly uneducated.
@Burger, its you lol
to the LOT staff; ITS “STALEMATE” not ‘STALE MATE’
Sorry, but Lens of Truth just cannot be f’ing trusted. I came here to see which version to get. I’m still not much wiser. Why have LoT completely neglected to mention some frame rate issues the 360 version seems to have that a lot of people are mentioning?
I still don’t know which version is the better running one and Lens of Truth haven’t made it any clearer in the damn slightest. Waste of time.
ANOTHER CLEAR AND EPIC WIN FOR PSTRIPLE!!
WE BE BALLLLLLLLLLLLLIN!
Flanker22 is correct. They are using FXAA.
lmao @ LOT. Such M$ fanboys………….
The true hurts? Xbox Epic Win.
I like Jaimes comment as if it’s impossible to adjust the brightness and contrast. and Aarons boner for the xbox controller, i agree it feels better for fps’s but if you play this game like a first person SHOOTER then your not playing it right.
I say this every time but LoT needs to start putting the games on level playing fields instead of “out of box”, like adjusting the brightness as similar as possible, and if you HAVE to install it on the ps3 then they should also install it on the xbox, if that had been the case then xbox would have won loading times as well(theres a youtube vid somewhere).
ever since this game was announced i had high hopes for the ps3 verson seeing as how the early gameplay demos were on the ps3 but despite LoTs bias,
XBOX WINS
What? You’ve got to be kidding. If anything, they tend to go easy on the PS3.
For example, this is a clear win for the 360 version yet they call it a draw because the PS3 version installed has faster load times.
Give me a break. The 360 version has better graphics and performance is identical, so it wins. No way does slightly faster load times weigh equally with graphics.
Besides, what LOT don’t tell you is that the 360 version installed actually has faster load times than the PS3 version installed. IGN did a comparison and it went like this: 360 installed > PS3 version installed > 360 version not intstalled. http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/deus-ex-load-time-comparison-360-ps3-360
So, the 360 version has better graphics, equal performance, and faster load times….yet, it’s a draw? No, that’s clearly not true.
And u forgot if the ps3 had a full install not a partial install it would still load faster so ur point is dumb.
And what if we add the audio capabilities of each console into the H2H?
Then the PS3 would win it everytime lol, the PS3 has far superior audo than the 360, by a big margine.
@nIGEL
If the ps3′s M A N D A T O R Y install was taken into account then these contests wouldn’t even be close because the graphics department is dominated by Xbox 360.
LMFAO you dont have a clue what your talking about
@Nigel
Typical fantard denial there Nigel.
As I said… “If the ps3′s M A N D A T O R Y install was taken into account then these contests wouldn’t even be close because the graphics department is dominated by Xbox 360.”
Did you understand it any better that time fantard?
Ya know Nigel I’m not sure why you even come to this site? I mean, if I were you I’d get depressed with the way the SUPERIOR Xbox 360 kicks your overpriced internet ready blu ray player’s azz. You’re really a glutton for punishment.
@ Nappy
You are the definition of Fanboy and like I said you have no clue what your talking aobut XD Lmao
There is no install on 360. It copies just 66MB of data and for sure that is not too much of the game.
360 version looks better
I personally like the way the PS3 version better. Definitely not a day 1 purchase for me but I’ll pick this one up after the fall release of games.
Tie. 360 version looked better but ps3′s better load times balanced it out.
Except if you install to the 360 then the 360 loads noticeably quicker. According to IGN anyway.
http:// uk.ign.com/ videos/2011/08/22/deus-ex-load-time-comparison-360-ps3-360?objectid=14220588
The comparison is out of the box.
so a forced mandatory install is better than having flexibility and choice of an install for 360? love the logic behind that.
mandatory bathroom breaks are better than having someone use the bathroom whenever he wants to. /sarcasm
Where did you get the idea that I said that?
But it does not install on 360. IGN is wrong. it installs just 66MB of data and that is not the Game. Ditching 360 media…
when PS3 wins a category, LOT play it down and its irrelevant (however you have critised PS3 slow loading times in past articles). But when Xbox wins a category it becomes a deciding factor. You still can’t disguise your bias in your writing can you? But I guess you guys majored in Maths, not English. Kepp ‘em coming though. Keeps me occupied at work
. I fail to see how the graphics on Xbox i more polished, it certainly isn’t evident in these screen shots.This is why is say, World Cup Soccer, the refs are from neutral countries to the teams playing a match, otherwise bias and corruption will be evident. It’s human nature I suppose. I’d like to see a Japanese version of LOT………
No mate that’s just you with your PS3 fanboysim specs on. If the win went to the PS3 you wouldn’t bat an eyelid because you want it to win simple as. Your not being objective because your a PS3 fan so you will exaggerate anything that is perceived to be negative towards the PS3 and YOU will downplay anything positive LOT has to say for your beloved console. Besides the 360 loads noticeably faster when installed but LOT only do out of the box comparisons so consider the tie quite lucky.
As a percentage LOT have given more wins to the PS3 than DF have, the other major H2H site. If you look at the H2H’s this year, it hardly screams LOT are MS fanboys. Plenty of PS3 wins and tie’s.
ironically, the way you describe it is EXACTLY the way I percieve LOT to base thier analysis favouring the 360. Well said, but to the wrong person! Of course the Xbox loads noticably faster when fully installed. HD speeds are much quicker than optical. HOWEVER, it is puzzling why Xbox doesn’t utilize partial installs more often to save ppl disk space and maximise performance. Possibly due to the amount of Xbox’s with extremely limited or no HD space in current circulation, hence restricting software sales.
@ samchez
This is the first time we agree on anything lol I didn’t see any differences honestly.
The supposed missing ssao is present on ps3 but due to the gamma/contrast it isnt as notisable lower those settings and the game will look better and the “missing ssao, missing lighting” wont seem like it.
But why do they always make it seem like the xbox does no wrong on here like with crysis 2 they showed dude in the hallway and they said the ps3 lighting was glitched cus the xbox was dark but when u saw the same scence on pc it has the ps3 lighting so yeah u can tell ppl on thos site are more biased toward xbox
It’s exactly the opposite. They go easy on the PS3 and try their best to give it wins or draws.
This game clearly looks better on the 360, runs the same, and has FASTER load times on the 360 once installed. This should have been a win for the 360.
Sure, these are relatively small differences compared to the PC version, but the truth is the truth, and the truth is that the 360 version has the edge. I’m getting the PC version anyway, but I just want to see more fairness.
*Spelling mistakes are type-o’s due to fast typing at work.
WOW, WOW
What’s a misleading article. My guess is it was intentional.
1.)It’s already been documented that the 360 load time ARE FASTER. (I own both) Check http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/deus-ex-load-time-comparison-360-ps3-360
ALL THINGS BEING THE SAME(ie…they are !BOTH! installed to the hard drive ===== the 360 is FASTER)
2.)It’s misleading because it’s obvious that the reviewer knows this by his comment NOTE: mandatory ps3 install….Are we supposed to discern that the 360 version then wasn’t installed to the hard drive?
3.)If that’s the case…why didn’t 1.) Clarify that 2.) Actually Compare the SAME setup????
Thx for the spin on the review
And yes I own both but I always care about accurate reporting….Looking through PS3Lensesof”truth”.com
Yea, honestly I’m kinda disappointed with LOT’s wording on this one. I remember you guys being more un-biased.
There’s almost no difference visually and the small advantage of the 360 version hardly justifies a “win”.
The loading times are not “10 seconds faster” either, the PS3 version loads almost 15 seconds faster than its 360 counterpart.
This is gonna be an interesting comments thread to read. I’m getting the PC version though, DX11 features and 30 bucks for the Augmented Edition are just two reasons I couldn’t ignore.
You can’t go wrong with either version, and Eidos Montreal did a fantastic job with either platform respectably. I’m personally going with the PC version though. Deus Ex has always been a PC first franchise, and this time, they’re giving PC players a unique UI from the console versions, as well as DX11 support.
Eidos are brilliant. They always made top-notch games on the Amiga. Why is the chief developer not branded a genius like the mouthy Carmack??? lol
It is a tie, it is only from console preference.
PS3: images with greater clarity and less loading time.
Xbox: graphically details (according to the analysts, which I see no difference).
you do know that clarity and detail are tied together, you cant have one without the other. you’ve essentially contradicted yourself.
you do know that something can be clear without having extraneous details, you can have one without the other. that’s why they are two different words.
Overall, I think the differences aren’t really something easy to spot, and suppose even if I was somehow able to spot them in motion, they would be way too insignificant for me to care (I did expect better, but I suppose this is good enough.) So, in my honest opinion, both versions seem more-or-less equal, so I don’t think that anyone would be disappointed when picking up either console version. In any case, I can’t wait to pick this game up first thing tomorrow, I think I’ll enjoy this game a whole lot.
In case anyone interested, here’s a review from Eurogamer (I haven’t read it, since I don’t really care much about reviews at this point):
spoiler alert:
loading times on xbox 360 (installed) are faster than ps3 loading times.
XBOX 360 WINS OFC!!!
Load times if for noobs that have arcade edition… 99% have a hd in the xbox now a days…
It’s pretty much a tie (though if I had to pick I’d give it to an installed 360 version).
All those fanboys screaming a PS3 win have been humbled. What’s that I hear? Best played on PC?
Xbox 360 win this one,if you intall the game in the hd loads faster than ps3.The graphics are better on xbox too.The performance is good in both.
Easy 360 win,i dont know who in the hell just vote for ps3 LOOOL,such a many SonyShitBoys here.
The true really hurts SonyShitBoys? A console that is one year older than ps3 has been kicking the ass these years in all the multiplats,Even the ex¨ps3exclusives like final fantasy 13 looks at some points better than ps3.
Its not hard to reconigze which system is better,yeah the ps3 has better looking exclusives,but you dont buy a console to only play 2 better looking games like uncharted and gow3 LOL thats bs.
The people who vote for PS3 are those with better taste. Face it, with game comparisons so close as to be unnoticable to the naked eye, and one console being able to do so much more than the other (blu-ray, internet video streaming, sound quality, stereo scopic 3D, multi video codec playback, etc) the choice is obvious. PS3 supporters on this site far out number the Xbots. The people have chosen. Exclusives DO matter greatly. Nintendo with Mario, Sega with Sonic etc. They were major deciders in days gone past.
No, Sony fanboys are just annoying, always have been. Sony sold a lot of PS1 and PS2s and the Sony fanbase is just more fanatical than the Nintendo or MS fanboys.
I’m mostly a PC gamer, but for whatever reason it’s always the PS3 fanboys talking crap.
Saying the PS3 version is better, when it clearly isn’t, just shows how biased and rabid most of the PS3 fans are. I love my PS3, but sheesh.
The PS3 version is clearly better here lol, its visually better with a sharper more detailed picture and correct contrast, and it doesnt have performance issues like the Xbox [which LOT ignored...] lol clear PS3 win
The 360 has better SSAO and AA which can seen on the screenshots and written in the article. The performance was exactly the same for both platforms with both maintaining 30 FPS, so I understand why you say the PS3 wins in that department.
Clear PS3 win lol, deal with it
Not to brag or anything but I got great taste and I clicked on tie :b
I thought this was a comparison of the game on two different consoles. Not a comparison between the two consoles itself. I don’t bloody care which console is fricken better with free net access bull crud and blu-ray. I just want to know which console plays this game smoother without so many glitches and if there was any perks on any of the formats (which sometimes they do on certain games).
I own both consoles and these stupid fricken fan war’s just ruin the comment’s for readers who want to get a “decent” 3rd party view. Grow the hell up! It’s like saying “My dog is tougher than yours” bull crud.
Poor ps3 gamers, dues ex is almost unplayable on their machine, oh wait, its almost identical. Slightly less jaggies with a more blurred image and a slightly quicker load time once installed on the 360 isn’t quiet the night and day difference you’re describing. So much for an epic win! lol.
You seem to have left out quiet a few exclusives in that list of your’s too, but hey what do you expect for a fanboy with tunnel vision focused on nothing but your 360. You’re just like nigel, except playing for the other team, you’re also very much like “thetruehurts” which is interesting because you both repeatedly say the same thing, “the true hurts”, which isn’t correct it should be “the truth hurts”. I dont really care about grammar or spelling as I’m no expert either, I just found the coincidence interesting….
Back to the analysis, realistically I can’t see how this can be anything but a tie, with differences so small ether way you choose.
Lol thetruehurts made multiple accounts. You are seriously one pathetic clown.
yes im using your mother info to make multiple accounts…
get serious you trash.
Hes not the only one making multiple accounts lol, Fandroid does a good job too XD
woo..i was amazed by how well perfomed the game on both consoles
…TIE just a little advantage for the xbox…the darkness can be adjusted on the TV and loading on ps3 was faster 
Well well well, i expected a tie but i didn’t expect it to pan out the way it has.
The resident nutcase nigel will be beside himself with grief after telling everyone over and over again that the ps3 version looks much better and will win lol.
As others like badassbab have said, the ign article states the 360 installed version is 5 secs quicker than the installed ps3 version(quite a big difference).
Going by LOT’s rules, this is a controversial tie for the ps3 on the basis of the load times.
It looks a good cross platform effort to be fair, but there is no doubt(going by the LOT analysis)that it’s slightly better on 360.
I agree. It’s not a massive difference, but fair is fair, and the 360 version should win this one.
The 360 version has more graphical advantages, is equally good on performance, and actually has faster load times once installed.
I dare say Nigel suddenly has an urge to mow his lawns constantly for the next few weeks on his little red mower. The guy has some serious issues.
Sorry Fandroid, its a clear win for the PS3 lol, clearer sharp more detailed picture [not blurry] and correct gamma.
Just because a few noobs from LOT chose the 360 doesnt determine who won lol, thats just them certain peoples opinions, the votes tell who won, and its a CLEAR PS3 WIN FTW.
Enjoy the worste version my friend
While I enjoy the best at max settings 60fps and 1600p 
haha laughable nigel indeed, cant you accept that the xbox owned ps3 in the graphics dep ?.. please grow a par will ya and correct gamma wth are u talking about :O it looks like its daylight on ps3 facepalm my friend facepalm , and btw why try to claim ownage(ps3 over xbox) if u are playing on pc another facepalm .. all posts i see from you is self-ownage yet another fp..
and fyi yes i got both consoles but why claim ownage when its a tie only big win for ps3 is load which isnt a win actually so in my book its a 360 win
Have fun
Tldr soz m8, all I know is that its a clear Xbox loss lol
I will have fub playing it at 1600p and max though, you have fun whatever your playing it on lol XD
Excellent multi platform release!
Yep. No screen tear on the 360 which is a surprise on a 720p game with AA. Maybe tiling was used or the AA is custom software based so doesn’t need to fit in the Edram. Or maybe LOT’s analyser didn’t pick up on screen tear when there might be some minor one’s at the top of the screen or in later levels.
The Xbox version aswell is being less detailed and slightly blurry has performance hiccups like stuttering and framerate drops, all minor but the PS3 doesnt. LOT just either didnt test it properly or chose to ignore it to keep all the unhappy Xbots happy
ONCE AGAIN! LENS OF TRUTH BRINGS US ANOTHER EXITING…BUT PS3 LOADING FAVORING H2H.
Both version perform smoth and flawlessly but….
THE FUCKING TALE OF NEVER END…THE LOADING
mandatory install os is and advantage…ITS A PENALTY.
First of all its not use, by the time a ps3 user install this game, the 360 user is playing a long time ago, mandatory installs are just another way to mask the same or worst loading time.
second, THE BEST LOOKING PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAMES DOES NOT NEED MANDATORY INSTALLS… but LOT pleases ps3′s crappy mandatory install WITHA RIDICULOUS LOADING WIN
I BET MY BALLS THAT IF YOU INCLUTE THE FULL INSTALL TIME OF XBOX 360 WITH THE MANDATORY ISNTALL OF THE PS3, THE XBOX 360 WINS HANDS DOWN EVEN ADDING THAT FULL INSTALL TIME.
In addition HDD installed xbox use the DD cache when not installed, once again this loading H2H IS AN EPIC FAIL…A LIE AND A STUPID POLICY.
but anyway, ps3 got owneed in the graphics dep…so…
i wish they would try it with the xbox 360 game fully installed, i bet it would be faster loading than the ps3.
The other day you said “All fanboys should drown” well i guess that includes you to.
Faster loading [although half the Xbox's in the world have no HDD so they cant install the game lol] by a few seconds [thats if it is faster...]
Doesnt mean anything when the PS3 has far superior sound which is much more relevant and an impact on the game than load times.
At the end of the day if tey include load times which means nothing visually then they should include sound which like I said is FAR more relevant and a big impact on the game. but that would be a no contest because PS3 would win everytime lol
People with HDD for their 360s can’t install the game, but at least they are given the option to buy a bigger HDD or play it straight off the disc unlike the PS3 when its required to practically install half the game with those mandatory installs. Those people with PS3 and not enough space are tuff outta luck if they wanna play Deus Ex.
The only reason the Xbox 360 games arent mandatory like the PS3 is because half of them dont have a harddrive or very small one, if they had a big harddrive as standard then the Xbox installs WOULD be mandatory like the PS3, that is the only reason Xbox installs arent mandatory lol, otherwise half the people wouldnt be able to play the game XD
The entire reason why PS3 has mandatory installs is because the BD drive of the PS3 has terrible read speeds and important assets must be transferred over to the HDD to make loading times faster. The read speeds of the 360 DVD drive are fast enough to run games directly on the disc and installing games on HDD completely optional.
Correction;
The entire reason the PS3 has mandatory installs is because it has a Big hard drive in all of its consoles lol. The only reason the Xbox doesnt is because it has no HDD in half of its consoles and people wouldnt be able to play the game XD
Plus look at all the comparision of games which arent installed on either verison, the PS3 and Xbox load times are overall equal my friend. Deal with the truth lol, half the Xbox’s have no HDD or a very small one and thats why the Xbox is not allowed to have a mandatory install not because it loads faster off the disc, the PS3 loads the same look at all the comparisons XD
Like I said before, the entire reason why the PS3 needs mandatory installs is so the loading times can be more tolerable because the BR drive’s lower transfer speeds. Otherwise, why not just install the entire game if you are practically install almost half of it on the HDD.
Same applies;
Correction;
The entire reason the PS3 has mandatory installs is because it has a Big hard drive in all of its consoles lol. The only reason the Xbox doesnt is because it has no HDD in half of its consoles and people wouldnt be able to play the game XD
Plus look at all the comparision of games which arent installed on either verison, the PS3 and Xbox load times are overall equal my friend. Deal with the truth lol, half the Xbox’s have no HDD or a very small one and thats why the Xbox is not allowed to have a mandatory install not because it loads faster off the disc, the PS3 loads the same look at all the comparisons XD
@zolrak shut up dude!it’s just a game!get over it!
If you’re not happy go to DF where it’s a tie even with the 360 install!! So should up and accept the rules, if LoT can’t get the install category right (according to you) they can’t get the visual category either!
Stopped reading when LoT said “2xMSAA and 2xMLAA”. No. They’re both using FXAA, just different implementations.
hahah I stopped reading when you said FXAA…
FXAA comes to all PS3 and 360 titles: A user on the NeoGAF forums has found a way to enable FXAA for any 360 or PS3 game, there is a catch though, you will need a HD capture card and a decent computer.. Here let me inform you on FXAA Pal
For those that are unaware, FXAA is a post-processing method that tries to reduce the amount of aliasing artifacts (think pixel staircase) in an image. It’s similar to MLAA in that aspect. Like all post-processing methods that act purely on image data, it has some drawbacks:
- It can’t handle subpixel aliasing well. (Unlike most similar methods, it at least tries to reduce it though)
- Sometimes aliasing may be detected incorrectly, resulting in an overblurring of the image. PtBi can mitigate this by adaptive sharpening after the FXAA pass.
- Particularly when used as a post-filter external to a game, it’s impossible to distinguish between UI and rendered 3D elements. This results in some UI distortion.
Advantages are that it can be used on any image data, it is really good at smoothing the edges it detects and it’s very fast. On my system, with YUV decoding, FXAA and adaptive scaling on, it still only takes less than 5 ms for a frame to be completely processed.
Pay attention here:
Another nice point is that it can be used on top of images generated with eg. 2xMSAA (like many modern console games) and still achieve an improvement in edge quality.
actually vereor is right. the game does not use msaa nor MLAA. and is most likely FXAA. msaa wouldnt work on alot of the tone mapping yet there is alot less aliasing on the 360. the edge gradiants are much smoother 4-5 colors
also mlaa would have provided much better anti aliasing than whats seen in the ps3 shots, however mlaa would have been a poor choice when it comes to futuristic games like this since it will adversely affect very fine details like lettering which is pretty prevalent in this game.
Where are you getting this information from? N4G?? Like I stated above
“A USER on the NeoGAF forums has found a way to enable FXAA for any 360 or PS3 game, there is a catch though, you will need a HD capture card and a decent computer” T
his FXAA method you speak of is used on top of images generated with 2xMSAA like many modern console games.
thats a completely different thing man… thats basically a hardware image processor. fxaa is just a type of AA. typically fxaa works best on the raw image since it looks for these specific edges, images which are already post processed may produce unwanted and unpredictable results.
i dont think you really understand the basic concepts and really shouldnt speak on it cause all you end up doing is spreading falsehoods and spread confusion.
Spell Checker.. what the hell are you even talking about? You’re making no sense, and clearly don’t understand a single thing you’re talking about.
Please take your copy-paste statements back to Digital Foundry or something, because you clearly do not even know what the hell you’re talking about. Deus Ex HR is the first console game to implement FXAA. Is the AA different across platforms? Sure is, 360′s is a little higher quality, hence why some edges are smoother and more detail is retained. Will it be noticeable during gameplay? Probably not.
I’m trying to wrap my head around your comments… Are you insinuating that LoT has applied FXAA to these screenshots? Because what we’re seeing here is definitely not MLAA or MSAA. MLAA for one does a much better job of anti-aliasing long edges, unlike what we’re seeing in these pictures.
Also, if I may say so, this is an incredibly bias analysis. “SSAO looks more refined” is a cop out, it’s the same on both systems. The 360 is crushing blacks so hard that it makes it seem darker, and better. I know LoT does an “out of the box” approach, but they should have noted this before even making the assumption that the SSAO is simply better because it’s darker. The only real difference is slight lighting issues, which occur on both platforms.
I honestly stopped taking LoT seriously way back when the Borderlands analysis was done. I only really visit nowadays to check out the stupid comments between Android and co.
(Thanks Flanker22, by the way)
You two are retarded. Your assuming that since the PC version has it natively the consoles will too. You are basing this assumption on form threads and not actually proof. Where is the link where the developer says that “Ex HR is the first console game to implement FXAA”.. Cause I can’t find it. Yes I know what FXAA does it’s all over the Beyond3D Forums.
Here’s anther copy and past for you and your girl friend there.
“As FXAA is NVIDIA’s answer to AMD’s MLAA technology, we thought it would only be fitting to compare the two directly in this game. Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA) is a post-processing filtering technique occurring outside the traditional rendering pipeline. AMD claims that it is agnostic to both the API and the graphics engine. What that means is that it works in Direct3D and OpenGL, and on any graphics engine, utilizing DirectCompute. However, right now, this feature can only be enabled on AMD GPUs.
It follows the same general process as FXAA: it processes the color data of a rendered image, looking for pixels with a high degree of local contrast. It then applies a smoothing filter to reduce contrast. How each technique goes about doing that, however, is quite different. FXAA looks for high contrast local to each pixel and MLAA looks for patterns of high contrast pixels. In this way, FXAA seems to be a superior technique for reducing pixel-sized aliasing.
To compare FXAA and MLAA, we have to look at both image quality and performance. First, we’ll examine performance with an AMD Radeon HD 6970, a Radeon HD 6950, and a Radeon HD 6870.”
well, well.. This is interesting
I guess LOT was spot on with this analysis! Great job guys.
Even your great Digital Foundry was confused on what method of AA they supported.
“Deus Ex appears to be our first use of NVIDIA’s FXAA anti-aliasing technology on Xbox 360″
so it APPEARS the xbox is using fxaa on XBox but not confirmed. Only the developers can confirm that.
He also says “The slight blur we see on Xbox 360 doesn’t seem to be present, suggesting that either FXAA has been rejigged and re-implemented for PlayStation 3, or else MLAA is being used”
Again he’s really not sure what they are using.
He also mentioned the load times the Xbox suffers from.
“Here’s where the partial PS3 install gives an advantage up against a purely disc-based 360 experience,”
Thank god you two don’t run comparison web sites!
Hey Vereor “SSAO looks more refined” is a cop out, it’s the same on both system”
Really!! look at one pic form DF gallery.. pay close attention to the door
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/dfcomparsion.jpg/
Dang your wrong again! lol
I have a question… It doesn’t look like you guys have Super White on, your RGB Filter looks like it’s set to limited, and the Cross Color Reduction filter is off. Am I wrong? You would probably have it that way, because it’s not the default. It makes PS3 games look leagues better when you fix it.
I guess the answer would be “no”…
hmm where did my last comment go?? Anyhow LOT has PlayStation 3 has RGB Full Range set to “Full” and Super White “On”.
Xbox 360 has Reference Level set to “Expanded” and HDMI Color Space set to “RGB”. They’ve done it like this from the beginning.
Super white wont make a difference in games it’s only used for whiter than whites and blacker than blacks in test patterns on dvds and blu-rays.
RGB should be limited.
Super white makes no noticable difference to image quality.
Cross Colour Reduction filter only works with SCART.
But still, the PS3 version is the correct looking version, it has far better gamma.
@DIALGAMARINE
Superwhite only affects Blu-ray movies, not games.
You are right on the RGB full range set to limited though, it should be set on FULL.
And this has nothing to do with the “out of the box” policy used by LOT, this is a PS3 feature that is valid for every game and movie.
Wow. Very nice multiplatform release. Gotta hand it to Eidos, they sure have some talent. @the whole loading argument… Jesus f*cking Christ people. Trying to play the “360 installation” card just to edge out a tiny victory is desperate. You’re comparing a full installation compared to a partial one. And even if there is a difference, apparently it’s not as drastic as a PS3 install compared to a 360 no install.
Just goes to show how many hypocrites there are out there for downplaying mandatory installations when their precious full disk installs are ALWAYS used as an argument to their advantage.
It’s a tie, therefore the developers deserve praise for their amazing work. Not your whining.
–….Thetruehurts is back… guess summer school is over. lol
Loading times on 360(installed) are faster than ps3 loading times(installed).
360 WINS!!!!!!
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/08/22/deus-ex-load-time-comparison-360-ps3-360?objectid=14220588
FFS Lens. You are turning into Fox News claiming unbiased news, but just the opposite.
First off adjust how you review loading times.
Since ALL 360 games can be installed i think either A) Have 3 loading tests 1. PS3. 2. Xbox 360. 3. Xbox 360 installed. or….
B) Assume everyone installs their 360 games and you do the same for the testing.
Not to mention the installation SHOULD be a 360 advantage utilized. So Loading times lower, but also FPS will increase, and less stutter. Why do you guys fail to include this option in your final testing?
Graphics wise… i dont see much difference so i think that maybe a tie. I do see some features pop better on PS3.
Im not rooting for one side here. I just think its bad practice what you guys are doing. Purposely avoiding a feature that can increase FPS and lower loading times.
I wish they would add a sound category because the better sound quality of the PS3 is more important than the tiny graphical advantage the 360 had.
They wouldnt do that because the PS3 has far superior sound on all games.
Great job guys. Can we expect a Catherine or SF3 head 2 head?
According to this site, the PS3 probably has the best version of Catherine:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/30/catherine_vs_catherine/
Apparently the game is mostly equal, except that the anime story scenes look a bit better on PS3. And since that’s kind of a big part of the game PS3 is the winner.
I wish LoT would add in the 360 installed vs un-installed because it would change peoples minds about what version to get. You won’t notice the graphical differences between the two version unless you had two tv’s side by side. Just get your copy of choice but be aware the 360 has faster load times when installed.
Hey guys thanks for all the comments. It’s always nice to see the discussions on here.
Anyhow, I see a lot of concerns about loading times and if we just installed the Xbox version we’d see much better Xbox 360 load times. Well that indeed is true. If we did install the Xbox version it would most definitely improve load times, but this is why we can’t do that.
First of all, when the PS3 does a mandatory install it’s only installing small portions of the game that we think are “key elements”. These key elements being installed are what the developers feel need to be there. As a matter of fact, we have no idea what’s being installed in that partial install. For all we know it could be trophy data. (But it’s obviously not) With that being said, there isn’t an option for a full install on the PS3 for Deus Ex, so to fully install the Xbox version would be completely unfair. Think about it, when you install the game on the Xbox it’s no longer streaming from disc. Everything, the entire game is handled by the much faster hard drive. You can’t pick and choose what to install. Again the PS3 only does a partial install and not having an option to install the entire game is really unfair. Now if we knew what was being installed on the PS3 with that partial install and had an option to install that same data on the Xbox version then we might make that exception. Technically speaking, the partial mandatory install is a game feature and I’m surprised Xbox developers haven’t utilized it yet.
Anyhow I hope this clears up any questions you guys might have and I hope you understand why we must keep to our procedure.
Again thanks for the comments
-Jaime
I think the reason Xbox developers don’t push mandatory partial installs of games is due to the amount of xbox arcades, and those with minimal HD space in current circulation. This would restrict software sales to only those with the space for the partial install.
Your obviously correct.
Also there is no point having optional partial installs on the 360 when you can just install the whole disc in less the 10 mins.
I dont really understand you reasoning on that one. I have a ps3 and 360, and whenever I see the Ps3 win a loading category because of a mandatory install I consider that a 360 win. Take about the same time to instal a 360 game and it will always load faster than the partial. If im going to do an instal, I will instead do the one that makes the game load the fastest and that is always the full one.
You say it would be an unfair advantage to the 360 as it would have more data on the HD than the PS3 version, but the way you do it now is an unfair advantage for the ps3 as you a required to put 3gb of data on the HD while 360 is completely off the disk. Comparing the ps3 install to the 360 install is no more “unfair” then comparing a game loading completely off the disk with one that has a a mandatory partial(3gb in this case) instal.
If anything you should compare ps3 games with mandatory instals with the 360 installed too, or at least collect data on it if a game has a mandatory install, so people like me who come here and actually have both a ps3 and 360 can see the “truth.”
So I think you should just compare the games off disk when there is no mandatory install on ps3, and you should at least collect data on the full install if the ps3 version requires a mandatory install even if you dont factor it into your decision.
IMO, you cant even play the ps3 version “out of the box” if it requires an install first, requires some setup time. If your going t continue to compare one version with a instal and one without, you should add a “time before play” category as now you only factor in the time a mandatory install saves on loading and not the time required to do it.
It would also be interesting if you collected data on how long the mandatory partial instal takes compared to the full install. that could be interesting to see if they are close or one takes longer in time before playing.
There are no mandatory installs on 360 because not everyone has a HD and it is a CONSOLE. I bet PS4 WILL NOT have mandatory instals. If you havent noticed pretty much all of sony’s first party studios dont use mandatory instals, I dont think sony wants them too.
You make a good point governator when talking about how can it be fair comparing a ps3 game(with mandatory install)to a 360 game which is running completely from dvd(no hd help).
But that’s what LOT choose to do unfortunately.
It would be nice if for future h2h’s that LOT add a small bit at the end of the h2h stating ‘this is how the result would pan out if we installed the 360 version to hd’
We could then see how any loading category win(for ps3)would be turned around in the 360′s favour(if that were the case).
The ps3 fanboys wouldn’t be happy with extra data added to the h2h comparing a fully installed 360 version to the ps3 version though(for obvious reasons lol).
For the majority of 360 owners, the 360 has won this h2h.
The majority will be installing it.
First of all we actually don’t know if the 360 install will improve load times, afterall IGN is about as reliable as a bag full of poop. And secondly I doubt you’ll fit this game on your hard drive considering how much porn there must be in there. And if you do consider the 360 install (which not all 360 users will use in the first place) then you can also consider the PS3 with full RGB and adjusted TV setting and suddenly graphics is a tie!
Although I agree with on the fact that the 360 version would most likely win if installed. The game is compared right out of the box.
The ps3 installation is mandatory in order to even play the game.
Also, wow PS3FANBOY, Porn? that leads me to believe that you’re the one who has porn on your ps3 since you brought it up in the first place. lol
I think both LOT and you are correct.
PS3 mandatory install vs 360 off the disc
or
PS3 full install vs 360 full install
or
PS3 off the disc vs 360 off the disc
Another point Zolrak brought up. Some 1st party (and even 3rd party) PS3 games mask the loading well or have little to no mandatory install. So a large mandatory install like in this game could be seen as a penalty when utilised.
To LOT-
Can LOT do a feature and say compare loading times of games you can download to the PS3 HDD from PSN vs PS3 retail Blu Ray. Maybe Infamous 1 or 2 or LBP 1 or 2.
If they include load times [which from all the comparisons overall the Xbox and PS3 are equal]
Then they should include sound which is FAR mor relevant than load times and for some a big effect on the game.
But they wont do that because the PS3 would wpe the floor wit the Xbox everytime lol.
3GB mandatory install of a 7GB game isnt really just the vital parts of the game, its essentially the entire game minus the movies.
then because the data has to be signed on the ps3 the install time is practically as long as the 360 install.
its not “unfair” its just an artificial limitation you guys made up to have results skewed for one platform.
and you know what the sad thing is, john carmack has already gone on record that RAGE is going to be better on 360 but because some weird flimsy scale you guys use, its probably going to end up being a tie or a win for ps3 which is just ridiculous.
The bottom line is that there are millions off xbox360′s out there that have no harddrive and therefore cant install the game.
Lens are comparing the games in the right manner because they have to pick the lowest common donominator that allows every PS3 and 360 out in the big bad world to play the game.
In this case no istall for the 360 because thats the only conditions relative to every 360 out there
PS3 users cant play the game without a mandatory install but thats not an issue since every single PS3 out there has a harddrive. The same simply cant be said off every 360….mine included.
Who’s also to say that if there was no mandatory install the PS3 version would take longer than the 360 to load. Perhaps eidos just took advantage off a feature relavent to all PS3′s to decrease load times a little……we’ll never know
In the future, I just wish that LOT will make 3 analysis. The 360 should make 2 analysis, 1 for the ‘out of the box’ and the other 1 is fully installed. I understand that you don’t wan to change your policy just because of some game, but since this website just like it’s motto ‘Just telling The Truth’, you should make analysis for the installed version of 360 too. Well, about the result, you don’t have to include this part when making the decision. Just make this part as an extra info for people who wan to Know the differences about the game version.
I know that not all people have HDD for their 360, so it fair that it does not included when making the final verdict. But some people who have HDD wan to know how well it perform if it installed on HDD before deciding which version worth the buck.
Thanks, for all of your hard work at LOT in providing us with the info so that we will make the right decision.
Lastly, forgive me for my bad grammar and i hope that LOT will take this into consideration for future H2H.
LOL First i don’t kiss sonys ass jerk. Second i din’t buy the xbox my friend give it to me, im not stupid to spend my money on microsofts crap so they can squeeze more money of my pocket. And you just post some crap to correct my words and then you said xbox wins? Wow you are realy dumb and your name shood be ”XBOX@RULES” then ”ps3@xbox”. I’m not a fanboy i’m just stating what is true and that is the ps3 version works and locks a bit better. Even the developers said that the ps3 version has a very small edge over the xbox so stop talking crap.
Ps3 wins when the ps3 is slightly blurier its the end all be all.Who wants to play a blurry mess because of better ssao and shadows that you cant see.When your getting a headache from the blur and your eyes are killing you because its trying to disern whats what on the overly dark screen you can tell yourself I have better ssao.
We whinge, we bitch, we moan and we criticise. But the common denomenator is that we all love to do it. keep up the good work Jamie and keep them coming. It’s good fun.
Very happy with the result. I’ll chalk this one up as a tie, in a sense that I don’t care which version i pick up.
Thanks for posting this analysis so quickly guys! For me it’s a tie. It was very close though. I will be picking up the Xbox 360 version because I prefer the controller and want the achievement points. Eidos Montreal had me nervous though demoing the PS3 version every chance they got. EM looks to be a very promising developer. I can’t wait to see what their next project will be! I know I won’t be worrying about which platform I buy it on as they really do care about cross platform quality! Visceral Games in my opinion is king when talking about cross platform development.
Xbox360 take the care with slight edge… but its really no much different to my untrained eyes. Any platform u have, im sure u will be happy.
Honestly I prefer the PS3 version based on the screenshots, only because I prefer the brightness level on it because in a lot of games i feel like the character models and other parts of the game are too dark and I’d rather see more of them than darkness.
With that said I also realize that I can change the brightness level so it really isn’t a big deal at all. My untrained eye showed no difference in terms of detail except on the pic with his arm on the wall, where I saw much more detail in his suit on the PS3, again probably because it was brighter.
I’m used to installing to the HDD so honestly I don’t care, especially since the reason (MOST times) is imo an advantage: blu ray read speeds are slower, but offer over 5x more space on the discs so i don’t mind. and 2.9 GB isn’t big at all.
However watching that comparison video with loading times on IGN the game installed on XBOX did load about 4 seconds faster. I don’t have an Xbox, but if I did I would probably install all my games anyway because in my head I would feel like it improves everything (placebo effect haha).
So based on these facts, although I would probably get the game on PS3 cuz 1) I am probably a PS3 fanboy and 2)i like its controller much better, I would say for those with both consoles just get it on the XBOX as potentially it could give you the best appearance if you don’t care about the controller.
Brightness is easily fixable, and loading wise: out of the box is PS3 but both installed XBOX.
How big is the install on XBOX? Because 4 seconds honestly isn’t such a big deal and nothing to get excited about…I mean by the time you think to yourself “Hey this is sooo long I should’ve gotten this on XBOX and inst-” your screen has already loaded. Haha. If the install is more than 4GB then I’d just stick with PS3 (If i had both consoles) because in my eyes I’d rather save a GB on my HDD than save a couple seconds.
BTW I didn’t bother, and won’t buy an XBOX because I prefer PS3 exclusives and multiplatforms to me look more or less the same with IMO minor differences. I guess that’s what would make me the PS3 fanboy. Halo and Fable IMO would be my favorite…Mass Effect was but I can play that on PS3 now so yea. I don’t like Forza as much as XBOX players do either, but I didn’t buy GT5 either…I like GT’s driving better than Forza’s, that was my only gripe with Forza. Alan Wake doesn’t interest me. Gears 3 looks amazing, but I’d rather get U3 because having played through parts of Gears 1 and 2 I prefer u2 as its more diverse for me. Plus imo if a system does tons of extra things and then plays multiplatforms slightly worse, id rather get the extra features like bluray internet and homemedia. More bang for my buck.
^lol completely unnecessary last paragraph but just thoought i’d let ppl know what im about as i recently started commenting…this way when/if ppl wanna bitch i can prove idc either way and my reasons….
The developers deserve credit for making a game that looks great and runs great on both consoles. As far as for which one is the one to buy I’m still undecided. I personally think that both versions look almost identical other than the 360 having better shadows and the PS3 being sharper. The load times on the 360 can also be fixed with an install. So for me it’s a tie. And I’m really going to have to think long and hard over which version to get.
On an unrelated note I was wondering what the next game the LoT staff was working on for the next h2h analysis. I personally would like a Catherine one since I still haven’t bought that game yet. Thanks for this h2h and keep up the good work guys.
Where’s Nigel?
‘Where’s Nigel?’
Driving over the edge of a very large cliff in his funky red lawnmower after viewing this h2h
Im right hhere bro enjoying the loss for the 360 version lol XD
PS3 won lol
Yep you’re delusional. I’m guessing after this H2H, you hate LOT a tiny bit more?
Ufortunatly no im not XD I can just see the truth
And I dont hate anyone lol
There’s a video on IGN demonstrating that the load times are SIGNIFICANTLY decreased with an install on the 360 making it even faster than the ps3 version. i still think this game is pretty even throughout, but I just thought I’d let everyone know.
Im slightly surprised. Before I read either this or the screenshot comparison I was thinking the PS3 would be slightly ahead, following recent trends, but I was wrong. That being said it was pretty much a tie and I’m glad to see that. Ill personally play it on the 360 when I do get it, due to my own preferences, but I was ready for a PS3 play as well. Looks like I would not have missed anything.
I have two questions for LoT:
1. Why do you go out of your way to “go easy” or put the ps3 in good standing?
2. Since when do load times have anything to do with visuals?
Bad analysis. Change your “loading category” policy it makes these H2Hs seem less genuine.
This is a 360 win guys. Not a tie.
Lot’s comparrison only covers the beginning of the game.
In later stages the 360 version has distracting frame rate problems.
So all in all the PS3 version looks like the one to get.
I dont normally disagree with lens staff very often but in this case i simply cant see why they think the 360 has an AA advantage. I very much think that the PS3 holds an advantage here.
Every screen iv looked at has far more examples off the PS3 having better AA than the 360.
The theory that 360 has better AA has left me somewhat baffled.
For example take the 3rd screen down on the first page, a shot lens have used to highlight the better aliasing on 360. Look at the top post-it note, corner overhanging the notice board, edge of receipt, shoulder of jacket, collar off t-shirt, right side off face under ear, hair coming down over his eye all are exhibiting better edge smoothing on the PS3 althought the top edge off the tv is very slightly smoother on the 360.
Its the same in almost all the shots as well, most off its its pretty minor and take a bit off effort to see but regardless its still there and in most case the PS3 is exhibiting better AA than the 360.
Lot can you add a few of the later stages to the performance analysis. It would be a more honest comparrison and this is the area where the 360 version struggles.
Some people still think the 360 should win this H2H but its not the best version.
Only 5 seconds faster when fully installed to the 360 HDD and PS3 only has 3GB install ROFL!!!But wait..I remember the xbots talking about how funny it is when PS3 gets a mandatory install,but when the PS3 gets an edge from the install then all of a sudden xbots say they install the games to the HDD (Which is basically a mandatory install because u can’t stand when PS3 has an edge)..And the article clearly points out (You shouldn’t be this stupid anyway) that each version has a tiny advantage over each other (Graphically) but how dark or bright you want the graphics to be it is adjustable by a brightness setting in the game but you still claim this as an epic 360 win?…Take off those green Shrek glasses and quit sticking your tongue up your nose to eat green boogers because as we all have witnessed green is clearly the worst of all.
I don’t get the logic behind the loading times comparison here. Everyone, who owns both consoles and looks up such comparisons as this one surely has the possibility to install the game on the Xbox. And as the mentioned IGN-test suggests, the load times are better on the Xbox, when you install the game. Don’t get me wrong, im not a Xbox-fanboy, but a fan of both consoles. Its just an objective opinion.
Im getting quite fed up of these silly rows over games… Ive played both versions…
The gamma and brightness thing is not right. I NEVER got that brigther gamma look on my PS3… i use a Panasonic Viera 42″ HDMI its crisper than my 360 display by a very small margin. Serious, PS3 is really down to the TV and how you adapt your settings… failing that, turn the RGB onto full if you want it deeper blacks and darker?..
2nd and LOT have missed this… the framerate stutters alot more on the 360 version, esp when turning full circle in a busy area… this is much much less on PS3… The small gfx differences are so small its not even worth doing a which one is better. I found both to pretty much be the same, those minor things mentioned in the write up most will never even spot and overall i found the PS3 version to come out on top… but im talking by like a .2 difference, you would not care what version you had, they are both GREAT!!
I’ve also heard of the 360 versions framerate problems. Lot should do a comparrison of these areas to make a true comparrison. Sadly I don’t think they will though as it will anger the 360 fanboys. They are angry the 360 didnt win so a PS3 win will be bad news for them.
I would also want LOT to include the areas where the 360 suffers in its analysis. If the 360 has performance issues then the PS3 version should get the win in that category and an overall win for the H2H.
Digital Foundry are much better at analysing more of the game and not just the beginnning.
Framerate stutters more on 360 eh?
It’ll be interesting(if true)whether digital foundary pick that up when they do their face off.
I have seen LOT h2h’s and digital foundary face offs vary before.
It could also suggest that this game is indeed a ps3 led game ported to 360.
All lead versions tend to get a slight boost in the framerate(ps3 or 360).
Ign’s video review on youtube did mention some performance issues at times, but never said what version they affected(giving the impression it was both).
Lot only really analyse the beginning of the game.
Digital foundry go into a lot more depth.
I’ve read about the 360 performance issues from a few places. One example is Gamespots review.
Yhe its a clear PS3 win, Visually and Performance. LOT just arent accurate or proffesion and just liek to try and keep both sets of fanboys happy to keep traffic on their site. Even if it means thei H2H’s are un acurate and un proffesional
Yep just read gamespot’s review and they do indeed mention it stutters a bit more on 360 when panning the screen around.
Sounds like both versions suffer with issues as they said it looks like the console versions are handling more than they can chew at times.
It depends how badly it affects the game but i’m sure digital foundary will mention it.
Pc version the way to go as usual despite looking like a bit of a console port.
Nigel’s 3dfx voodoo 2 card won’t handle it though, stick to the ps3 version
I would rather play in 1600p on max than 720p on low lol
Enjoy the worste version my friend
I’m not getting it on ps3 so i can’t enjoy the worst version(according to LOT)
Lol incording to LOT the PS3 wins…look at the votes lmao, PS3 wins bro
The whole point in LOT is the votes determine which wins, the LOT staffs opinions are exactly what they say they are and opinions, they dont determine who wins, the votes do that the whole point for them
Like I said enjoy the worste version with performance issues and blurry less detaioed picture while I enjoy the best the complete opposite XD
Lol U Mad Bro? U mad that this one goes to the ps3? Go play on your xbox with your 12yearold friends and scream at cod. And don’t think of how much of a waste of human resources you really are. Stop being such a delusional jackass fanboy and go troll somewhere else douchbag. Ps3 version is better deal with it!
Something tells me you and nigel would get on very well lol.
Both delusional, both easing the pain of a fortunate tie for the ps3 by shouting out ‘ps3 wins ps3 wins’.
I’ve admitted it’s a fair tie already, just a slightly fortunate one based on the loading.
No need to get tearful because the ps3 barely scraped a tie on one of the best games of the year
Clear PS3 win lol
Sorry bro i dont listen to what Douchebag fanboys have to sai, and i do own a xbox360 but its crap. And i love how you sai TIE on games that are better on ps3 and when the xbox wins with a 00.01% your like “XBOX IS SOOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!” So yet again bro go suck a lemon and shut up because your the biggest fanboys on this site. Go get robbed by microsoft and kiss there ass.
‘Sorry bro i dont listen to what Douchebag fanboys have to sai’ hahaha lol. then again you say ‘And i love how you sai TIE’.
‘Go get robbed by microsoft and kiss there ass’, well i think that you the 1 who should kisssonyass. the optional installed on 360 not just improve load but also the fps in those part that they say very bad frame for 360 version.
BTW, ANDROID123 what you say is the right. For the 1st time I ever agree with your opinion. The result are tie …….. but the 360 win with 00.01% because of the installed version improve it even more.
Great Job Eidos and Square Enix, for making such a good multiplatform titel!
Graphical differences are minimal, load times also(if u install to hdd on X360,what i always do..) VERY stable framerate, with NO SCREANTEARING!!!
I’m a bit tired of reading all those fanboytalk in the posts before me, they are both great games!
So i’m going to play DXHR first on my PS3, and then on my X360…
I,m sure i will have a good time with both versions, with Trophies AND achievements!!
laterzz
Nice head2head guys… i am getting this on ps3 for sure
. I am kind of disappointed with the lack of like and dislike voting in the thread.
What about sound???? If loading times are taken into consideration, Surely sound should be. Sound is more important to most gamers than loading times, Especially when the noise of firing a gun is one of the main parts of this genre!!
The 360 only supports up to dolby digital 5.1 (i think), so the ps3 would almost always win that category, but this is lens of truth, so as the name implies they only focus on the visual aspect.
Yeh the Xbox produces only DDS and its not even good quality at that, while the PS3 produces DTS which is FAR better quality and also the PS3′s DDS is better quality than the Xbox’s.
The PS3 has a far superior soundcard.
The 360 uses the maximum DD bit rate which is 640kps, same as the PS3. However in order to fit large data heavy games on the DVD, compression maybe used in which case it will sound inferior vs PS3 DD.
Yup, the PS3 has superior sound on all of its games in DDS, but on DTS it completely wipes the floor and is extremely good [the PS3 has very good sound because its also a BD hometheater center]
I game in 5.1 and sound is quite a big thing for me and gets me into the game and playing on the PS3 its very noticbly more crisp and dynamic sound than the 360, specially on games liek BFBC2 its amazing and the diference is prettu huge.
My PS3 has superior sound to my PC and I have a good soundcard. The Xbox doesnt sound very good atall in 5.1
The PS3′s audio is integrated although it does support 7.1 surround sound. You will need to purchase an adequate sound system to get the best audio possible. All games sound practically the same coming from regular TV speakers.
I have 5.1 and through surround and the TV speakers [my TV isnt rubbish] there is a clear difference in quality of sound from the PS3 to the Xbox, Xbox has pretty poor sound
Using loading times as a comparison category is not focusing on the visual aspect at all. Loading times make no difference to how each game looks. Besides we all know by now that the 360 dvd drive is faster than the PS3 blu-ray drive, So comparing load times will almost always give a 360 win. Yet they still compare. Sound is of major importance to games especially when the music is as grand as this game.
Hasn’t always worked that way in reality though. Sometimes even after a hd install the 360 version remains slower. I can’t honestly say I can generalise enough either way though, as I’ve never seen enough ppl talking about loading time differences that much.
I agree with you 100%, sound plays a huge role in games. BFBC2 springs to mind when i think of great sound in a game, it really aids the destruction and explosions to really immerse you into the game.
I also agree that loading times have nothing to do with the visual aspect, they should just remove that particular category altogether, it would stop the constant bitching about the full hdd installs on the 360, or maybe they could mention it but not have it contribute towards any deciding factor, i think it should just be removed altogether.
I would like to see sound replace loading times as a category but i dont know how it would be implemented and how many people really consider sound as a big enough factor, I know I do and probably a handful of others, but I would like to bet most gamers just play sound through their tv.
Did they ever state that they were solely focused on the visual aspects of games? loading times are an important apsect of games, as if they are really slow, it reduces the enjoyment factor of a game(at least it would for me).
They could also bring in sound, but that would be a constant win for ps3.
They cant compare full installs,as option isnt available on ps3, and cant do partial install on 360, so they do this comparison, 2out the box”.
seems fair to me, although I’d be tempted to remove any sort of verdict based upon this category, simply state the facts, and let people decide if its relevant for them.
It’s only me or the xbox 360 version looks blurred?
Dont worry its not just you lol, its everyone who has a half decent screen and doesnt need glasses XD [or isnt a delusional Xbox fanboy
]