
Welcome back for another exciting Head2Head! This week we take a closer look at THQ’s Darksiders II for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. This time around players will take control of the Horseman Death, instead of his brother War. Come join us as we slash our way through the apocalypse to uncover any differences that may lie beneath!

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August 16th, 2012
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may i ask to those admin? how did you take the screenshot for those games? what kind of application did you use?
Check the FAQ page please
might help with some of your questions.
Thanks
-Jaime
oh my bad!
thank you very much!
@BUYING ‘I’ 999
good job there BUYING ‘I’ 999. Slick how you’re even using the same avatar pic. But pretty pathetic really.
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
EDIT!!
before the xboxers, soniers, xbots, and pstrolls start trolling and fighting like if was for the only human vagina left in the world, I will only say that both look the same with very minimal differences, a good job was done, not the fiasco done with the first part.
performance is yet to be seen
I’m going to use that the next time somebody gets into an argument, that line is ^&%*$#@ brilliant! XD
This one is very clIll ose indeed. I’m going to reserve judgement for the full analysis. I’ll be interetest to see how the performance comes out and if the over priced internet ready blu ray player requires a mandator install.
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
If the performance wins on the 360 I’ll be all like BAM! And if it loses I’ll be like, LOL you can have this one playstation defence force but the Xbox is still SUPERIOR! LOLOLOLOL
This is because I am INCREDIBLY fickle…
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
@BUYING ‘I’ 999
That’s inventive posing as another user and saying lots of stupid stuff ROFL
good job there BUYING ‘I’ 999. Slick how you’re even using the same avatar pic.
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
@BUYING1999
“good job… But pretty pathetic really.”
^_______ This here, this right here, “pretty pathetic really” is what its like to read ALL of your narrow minded comments when you act like Microsoft is a football team or you owe it something.
The Xbox 360 AND the PS3 are both GREAT consoles.
@BUYING1999, @Xbox fanboys, @PS3 fanboys; If you dislike the Xbox 360/PS3 fair enough, but be humble in your opinions to others, respect their decisions from afar even if it doesn’t make sense to you…
Oh look. the subpar peasant machines who are locked at 30fps look like crap compared to pc. No performance hit on here.
Buying, you childish, foolish fanboy… What’s the problem with a mandatory install?! I just bought a 750GB 7200rpm HDD for my dear dark lady. Not even the cost of of a couple of games while it will allow me storing the DOZENS of free games the PS+ is giving away for free.
Oh.. what? The Xcrap can’t use standard 2.5″ HDD?! Hahahahaha!! What a piece of JUNK!!!
@MICHELASSO
You’re such an idiot? Like your ps3? Enjoy it. Real gamers own both anyways. I do have PS+ and their game RENTALS are a cool way to give users “free games” that Sony selects, but once you are off the subscription the games turn off and ou cannot pay them. Hence they are Rentals.
I own both of those and the wii. Ps3 exclusives are great, but generally there are many more downloadable games on Xbox
Lookin’ good. Vigil games still showing how it’s done.
Just don’t tell pc owners vigil are showing us how it’s done lol.
Having played the pc version, I can tell you it’s a ropey port with low res textures aplenty(probably ported from the ps3 version).
The console versions will be an interesting comparison though.
Welllll I guess it’s a good thing I never planned on picking this up then. lol
Sleeping Dogs on the other hand… Oh Steaaammmmm..!
Android, give us a favor.. Take your piece of rubbish called PC away from this site. No one cares here if PCs are more powerful. They still are junk, especially if they run Windows.
Oh, and since we are here… I bought an Android phone!! The next one speaking badly about Apple is in my “soon to be killed” list. Who’s had been the totally retarded to chose to use Java as part of the OS. It’s a force close/reinstall/pray that it works after another. And don’t make me talking about performances… Stuff good just for Windows and XBox fanboys…
just about identical, only differences I saw was that a far off mountain on the 360 version as more jaggy and the picture of the birds head the 360 had better texture on the big feather. other than that pretty much the same.
Only difference is that Xbox is SUPERIORR…ARrrr… goodness I’ve just come again…
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
@BUYING ‘I’ 999
Well this is new. A new play in the sdf playbook. If you are so frustrated with the inferiority of the over priced internet ready blu ray player because it keeps getting it butt kicked over and over and over and over again simply pose as the user that points it out and say lots of stupid stuff ROFL
good job there BUYING ‘I’ 999. Slick how you’re even using the same avatar pic.
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
no buying, he’s posing as you because it’s funny and he knows it’s actually getting to you so that hopefully you quit posting boring posts that hold no weight or insight.
@BUYINGI999 keep doing it, it’s hilarious!
eh, too close to give much of a butt sausage
hahahahah Oh how I love this man…
lol.. i already got part 1 on ps3, so this comparison really doesn’t affect my mind if i go ps3 again. sometimes the sequels go backwards and i need to get the better, so a different console they go
parity it seems, which was pretty much the case for the first game once the screen tear was patched, either way we all get a kick ass sequel to a kick ass game.
This is really close.. to close to call. In a lot of the shots the ps3 look a little darker, and a little more defined, but then on page 2 the xbox sleems to be slightly sharper in the textures, though more jaggy. But really, except for gamme-differences, these look 99 % identical. And on the go, nobody can tell. Good job by vigil (except for the fact that the game supposedly is buggy as hell).
‘Good job by vigil’… LOL
I think you mean, ‘Good job MICROSOFT for allowing Vigil to develop a game for your SUPERIOR console…’
LOL, I love being a tired excuse of a gamer, a broken record you might say! Either way, I only choose ONE console, so all you actual true gamers out there can suck it!
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
For the record, the game director said the PS3 is a ‘pain in the ass’ to develop for.
I can hardly spot the difference! What’s going on?!
LOL, you CLEARLY need the opticians, the superior Xbox 360 clearly WINS!
The only ‘pain in the ass’ that I have to worry bout it one that I get from putting my controller up my… LOL nevermind…
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
I have a hard time seeing a clear advantage. There are some differences but they aren’t always consistent. What makes this even harder is that the screenshots aren’t completely in sync. I’m calling this a tie. Anyway, this graphics style is fairly forgiving when it comes to subtle differences. Now it’s up to performance.
The SUPERIOR 360 has the CLEAR advantage…
I pay BUYING1999 in kisses EVERY time he quotes me. –John Carmack
Dunno about you guys but 360 seems to have slightly better texture filtering but AA seems to be better on PS3.
360… Oh god yes… Has… oh god… SLIGHTLY… yes, yes … BETTER TEXTURE… FILTERINGGGGG!!!!!!!! BAM! And i’ve just come again! Take that Sony!
LOL
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
The PS3 has more snow. I like snow. So the PS3 is better. Beat that!
Did buying1999 somehow… multiply?
@KAGE56
Yup, though i’m still trying to look for his Space core
360 version looks slightly sharper.
BAM! Keep saying things like that! Gets me hard!
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
I have to go with PS3 on this one. It just looks a little better.
Darksider 1 had crazy screening tearing on 360 and the PS3 did not. I know I bought the 360 version.
Now for Darsiders 2 according to multiple review sites (Gamespot / Giant Bomb) the 360 deeps in frame rate performance and has quite a few bugs.
Lol, well I have to go with Xbox 360 cos its SUPERIOR, well priced, does not play blu rays and well… Because John Carmack has me tied up with a gun to my head… but still!
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
If you bought the 360 version then you’d know there was a patch released to cap the frame rate and v-sync.
In some instances, the PS3 version seems to have better edge-smoothing than its Xbox 360 counter. However, I did notice that, overall, texture filtering seems a tad better in the Xbox 360 version but the difference so minuscule (like that between 1 and 1.05) that it will easily be overlooked while playing. As expected from Vigil Games, the quality is consistently delivered across platforms (which isn’t exactly good for PC crowds, I supposed.) Let’s see what’s the performance analysis has to show.
The Xbox 360 smooths my edges, I know that much….
BUYING1999′s opinions will hold NO WEIGHT in the annals of gaming history. – John Carmack
Dont see any difference between any of them. Got the first one for free on PSN+ and actually enjoyed it. My only complaint with the first one was the combat which consisted on pressing the square button over and over again. Does any know if the combat has been improved at all or if its just mashing the same button again?
Also, as much as he is annoying i will admit to giggling a wee bit to some of BUYING1999 replies on this comparison.
Glad it made you giggle
I suppose if I’m going to continue to pointlessly troll people I might as well admit that I’m a hollow, fickle and rather bland sort of gamer seeing as I only enjoy just ONE console!
To be fair, even if the Xbox does win a lot of graphical comparisons, I have NOTHING against the PS3; it’s a great console, shame I’m not open minded enough to enjoy BOTH!
I pay BUYING1999 by allowing him to French kiss in between my buns EVERY time he quotes me. –John Carmack
PS. Sony Defence Force at it again giving me negative votes!
Lol, is it cos I’m a shallow, depressing waste of space? Look, just cos Im a f*cking idiot doesnt mean I’m stupid! LOL
Wait, I mean… Ugh, forget it.
John Carmack is the BEST John Carmack EVER made. -Katherine Anna Kang
@BUYING ‘I’ 999
A new play in the sdf playbook. If you are so frustrated with the inferiority of the over priced internet ready blu ray player because it keeps getting it butt kicked over and over and over and over again simply pose as the user that points it out and say lots of stupid stuff ROFL
good job there BUYING ‘I’ 999. Slick how you’re even using the same avatar pic.
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
@BUYING1999
“good job… But pretty pathetic really.”
^_______ This here, this right here, “pretty pathetic really” is what its like to read ALL of your narrow minded comments when you act like Microsoft is a football team or you owe it something.
“SUPERIOR Xbox 360…”
Microsoft doesn’t know or care you exist, you are just a statistic to them. Besides, you’re a gamer… Fucking GAME! You are missing out if you stick to one console, unless its a money issue (which is totally understandable) why pigeon hole yourself?
For the record, the person typing this is NOT anti-Microsoft (or anti ANY gaming manufacturer for that matter) I am not part of the ‘Sony Defense Force’ either, there is an Xbox 360 to my immediate left as I type.
EVERY major console has it highs/lows, pros/cons. Xbox 360 AND PS3 are both GREAT FUCKING CONSOLES. Some people prefer one over the other, vice versa, its totally understandable but its completely subjective. As gamers, we all know they’re are a whole lot of dicks amongst our ranks who pick arbitrary fights when really, the fact that we are all gamers should be a reason to get along regardless of console preference.
It does not make sense when the fans pick sides like you work for them, the competition is for the companies, its what keeps the industry on its toes.
@BUYING1999, @Xbox fanboys, @PS3 fanboys; If you dislike the Xbox 360/PS3 fair enough, but be humble in your opinions to others, respect their decisions from afar even if it doesn’t make sense to you…
EDIT!!
HA! sorry buying1999, but by being a tool, you had it coming… this shit was fun
and seriously, why do you even care to love microsoft that much? It’s a company, and it’s a machine.. nobody gives a fuck. Most people here are here for one reason only, to find out what console to get their games for. I mean, nobody really cares what brand of pc they got, long as it’s great. I mean there is fanboys, you know Nvidia and AMD, but really, everyody changes their allegences after who makes the better product at the time. So get both consoles, or a ps3 and a pc (that will cover most xbox 360 games anyway) .. unless you really love halo and kinect game. Mine is just collecting dust, but i bought an xbox controller for pc (you know, best of both worlds). So really dude, give it a rest. Nobody is here to discuss fandom retoric with you, but to discuss the suddle differences with well rounded arguments according to actual knowledge. Were all gamers, and should be united about that, instead of flaming console-wars…. get over it. // best regards from a gamer from the time before ridicoulous consolewars
and seriously, why do you even care to love microsoft that much? It’s a company, and it’s a machine.. nobody gives a damn. Most people here are here for one reason only, to find out what console to get their games for. I mean, nobody really cares what brand of pc they got, long as it’s great. I mean there is fanboys, you know Nvidia and AMD, but really, everyody changes their allegences after who makes the better product at the time. So get both consoles, or a ps3 and a pc (that will cover most xbox 360 games anyway) .. unless you really love halo and kinect game. Mine is just collecting dust, but i bought an xbox controller for pc (you know, best of both worlds). So really dude, give it a rest. Nobody is here to discuss fandom retoric with you, but to discuss the suddle differences with well rounded arguments according to actual knowledge. Were all gamers, and should be united about that, instead of flaming console-wars…. get over it. // best regards from a gamer from the time before ridicoulous consolewars ….. and i just fixed my comment as i believe swearing probably will get moderated. so i hope “damn” is ok.
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Oi! Where’s the freaking spam management squad?
@BUYING1999
“good job… But pretty pathetic really.”
^_______ This here, this right here, “pretty pathetic really” is what its like to read ALL of your narrow minded comments when you act like Microsoft is a football team or you owe it something.
“SUPERIOR Xbox 360…”
Microsoft doesn’t know or care you exist, you are just a statistic to them. Besides, you’re a gamer… Fucking GAME! You are missing out if you stick to one console, unless its a money issue (which is totally understandable) why pigeon hole yourself?
For the record, the person typing this is NOT anti-Microsoft (or anti ANY gaming manufacturer for that matter) I am not part of the ‘Sony Defense Force’ either, there is an Xbox 360 to my immediate left as I type.
EVERY major console has it highs/lows, pros/cons. Xbox 360 AND PS3 are both GREAT FUCKING CONSOLES. Some people prefer one over the other, vice versa, its totally understandable but its completely subjective. As gamers, we all know they’re are a whole lot of dicks amongst our ranks who pick arbitrary fights when really, the fact that we are all gamers should be a reason to get along regardless of console preference.
It does not make sense when the fans pick sides like you work for them, the competition is for the companies, its what keeps the industry on its toes.
@BUYING1999, @Xbox fanboys, @PS3 fanboys; If you dislike the Xbox 360/PS3 fair enough, but be humble in your opinions to others, respect their decisions from afar even if it doesn’t make sense to you…
Yeah
The SUPERIOR Xbox that need 3 CDs to play Final Fantasy XIII
Gimme a break, fanboy.
Do you know WHY most of the games runs better on Xbox?
Xbox is from Microsoft, GAMES are MADE on computers. Is WAY easier to test a game on Xbox then in PS3. If you want to know the diference between the “Superior Xbox” and the “Internet ready blu-ray”, compare the exclusive’s graphics. You will see that the “Internet Ready Blu-ray” will kick 360 ass.
Stupid fanboy.
EDIT!!
This game looks 99% identical, but I think a PS3 is a tiny bit better.
WTF have I just read?
really looking forward to the perfomance analysis on this one.. since that will most likely settle the debate. In these shots neither seems to be better than the other.. in some screens ps3 looks better, and in some xbox looks better. Hope LOT-staffers get around to the it quick
I see no difference really. On to the performance analysis!
Wow, after seeing what happened to the comment section on this comparison LOT Staff really ought to do something about teh fanboy comments coz they are getting really out of hand. Yes buying is annoying but creating a fake account to imitate and annoy is just plain pathetic whoever it was.
@LOT admin, plz do something coz the fanboys are ruining this site for everyone who actually comes here for the comparisons?
I whole heartedly disagree, BUYING was a rude annoying spambot that brought down any conversation he was in. somebody finally got the idea to satirize him and it’s quite hilarious (it brightened my day to say the least)
while I agree that it may have gone too far (way too many posts) as long as he tunes it down I think it’s a great way to keep BUYING in his place (I might just grab myself a BUYING account just to troll the troll)
Just like Sleeping Dogs H2H on DF, this game too is running at a higher resolution on the Xbox 360. Look at the bird comparison to see for yourself.
I just wanted to state I got the ps3 version and I am noticing no issues like screen tearing or anything. I usually am a 360 person but most thq games seem to run better on the ps3 and I had the previous game on the ps3 so i picked that. Sleeping dogs on the other had is still sitting wrapped up for my 360 maybe I will get to it tomorrow or the next day.
Most titles published by THQ actually look and perform better on the Xbox 360.
After saints row 3 and the last darksiders I would beg to differ. But overall I think most multiplatform games are better on the 360. But Honestly THQ does not make many games that appeal to me. So maybe I am completely informed.
Well, THQ is kind of a wild card… you never really know, but yeah, very often theres a slight favour of the xbox, but if you look at recent titles like Space Marine, the ps3 won that one big time. So, you never know with those THQ-guys… he he
I’m not sure where you got the idea that the PS3 “won that one big time.” The native resolution of Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine is 1152×640 for the PS3, and 1200×720 for Xbox 360 version. Both versions run smoothly at a seemingly constant 30fps, completely V-synced. If anything, I think both were pretty close to the level of one another.
The colors are more saturated on ps3…it’s glaring!
@Bloodios: Well, i don’t know exactly what resolution they run, but the ps3 version (of the warhammer game) got better textures (by quite a lot) better lighting and better AA, so yeah i think it won it big time.. take a look at the screens dude, they speak for themselves. If you really can’t see that the ps3 takes that one, you’ve got to be one blind console-fanboy.
Interesting! You quickly determined that I, a PS3-only owner, is a fanboy simply because I could not see the same thing you saw while wearing that pair of fanboy goggles. Well, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
Dude.. i’m an all format guy (pc, xbox and ps3). Well, i hardly ever use my xbox (sort of considering giving it to my little cousin, since he really wants one) because i play all the great multiplats on pc, and i really don’t want t shell out for online anymore (i’ve gotten used to gettin’ it for free, if you know what i mean WINK WINK NOTCH NOTCH).. he he..
No offense dude, but it would be like saying that sleeping dogs had perfect parity.. he he..
None taken. What a waste of time it would be to be offended by something this trivial.
DF put two performance videos UP
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/darksiders-2-cut-scene-performance-video
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/darksiders-2-gameplay-performance-video
This game does not worth the money, when I got it from ebay brand new to add it to my collection of original games, Broke the seal and checked the contents and I found something that really angered me: THE INFAMOUS
ONLINE PASS!! I was really pissed off as all online passed games are no more than incomplete games for me, so I sold it to another friend, after installing the game into my JTAG, converted it with NXE2GOD. Now I sold the game and I have it with the online pass and all DLCS, I preffer to crack them Rather than nuying them. Online pass is an outrage and has to be stopped,
I DONT BUY/SUPPORT ONLINE PASS GAMES
waste of money.
Wow.. when you see the performance analysis, it makes it very apparent, that the only reason these to look any different in the screens here, is because LOT’s tv setup isn’t spot on. These are identical, and seem to perform identical too. Not af beautiful game by any stretch (except for the nice artwork), but at least it’s close to a 100 % perfect parity.
@HUMLEREN
‘but at least it’s close to a 100 % perfect parity’…uhhh no.
Please visit digitalfoundary and read the complete analysis. The over priced internet ready blu ray player couldnt hold up against the SUPERIOR Xbox 360 (as usual)
The Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made. –John Carmack
He’s talking about Darksiders II. Not Sleeping Dogs, dumb dumb. LOL
And yes, they are pretty much identical even down to performance… well actually it seems like the 360 has a little more issues with performance just like the previous game. :3
The 360 one has no extra issues cerna, a few more drops on the cutscenes(briefly)which is bizarre, but the gaming framerate is unfortunately exactly the same as the ps3 version.
That means both versions dropping to 22fps during heavy action
There’s a great fix out for the pc version though that gets rid of the vsync stutter that has been annoying everyone.
Now it’s a silky smooth 60fps without a single hitch
Shame about the console quality textures though.
Yeah
The SUPERIOR Xbox that need 3 CDs to play Final Fantasy XIII
Gimme a break, fanboy.
Do you know WHY most of the games runs better on Xbox?
Xbox is from Microsoft, GAMES are MADE on Microsoft’s computers. Is WAY easier to test a game on Xbox then in PS3. If you want to know the diference between the “Superior Xbox” and the “Internet ready blu-ray”, compare the exclusive’s graphics, like Halo VS Killzone, or Gears Of War 3 vs God Of War 3 You will see that the “Internet Ready Blu-ray” will kick 360 ass.
Stupid fanboy.
OBS: You will never find a 360 exclusive that can defeat Uncharted 3.
They look near identical to me
@Buying: I believe it to be beneath me to actually dignify any of your sad fanboy ramblings with an answer – believe me, my time is way to precious for that kind of time-wasting. Therefore, i will not even acknowledge anything you do or write from here on after. Just wanted to give you a heads up, so you can stop commenting on things you (apparently) didn’t even read. And honestly give the carmack-line a rest.. the mans a legend, but also a dinosaur. And the 1999 in your name (which i assume is your birthdate) gives me reason to believe you actually didn’t really experience him in his primetime..
Now where was i… Oh yeah, darksiders 2 = identical across consoles apparently. But, i still think this will wait until it ends in the bargain-bin.
The face off of darksiders 2 is up on eurogamer.
Consoles versions a tie as we thought, pc one the better buy but a bare bones port.
At least it ends the run of defeats for the ps3 in these h2h/face offs.
Well, except for Sleeping Dogs, i would say most differences have been so tiny as to be irrelevant in these head2heads – for a long time (ok, future soldier was pretty bad). And as a mostly pc guy, i think a lot of those should just have been ties… and, it really does seem to me that a bit of bias in the 360′s did shine through… And yeah.. some of them were ubi-titles.. and though ubi makes great games, their a lazy bunch at times (at least where console-parity is concerned, it just seems to be the “that will do” mentality) all the way.. But, i’m actually more pissed about all the barebones pc-ports. My new GT670 needs to do some work
My ps3 is ever only turned on when there is a great exclusive to play, and i can’t remember the last time i fired op the old xbox ..
well i bought sleeping dogs for 360 and darksiders 2 for ps3 and i think thats worked out right, i new vigil would come through for the ps3 as they nailed it with the first game, so parity has been achieved, as i side note i downloaded sleeping dogs demo on the ps3 just to see how bad it was and can assure anyone with only ps3 it still looked and played pretty darn good, its better on 360 no doubt but its not a car crash on ps3.
360 failed bad on the first darksiders, esp in performance… I would guess PS3 will shade it again… but it looks closer this time… but the game although good is harldy a world beater is it?.
I don’t understand. Are the face=offs ever coming back? I feel like all we’ve gotten are screenshot comparisons and not the full detail head2heads of the past. I’ve been waiting to hear form you guys so I can make an informed decision on Max Payne 3 and Sleeping Dogs, but..
Same.
Sleeping Dogs… a poor port, nothing to do with PS3.
Both consoles are equal unless your a pixel counter, PS3 does have a slight advantage if its pushed to the max.
Xbox 360 is my console of choice but I’m not bitter about PS3 having some exclusives with great graphics, real gamers don’t bother about differences, its all about the game play.
Gameplay is what makes a great game, its what makes you go back again and again to play some more, if you don’t believe me ask the millions of COD players, they sure don’t play those games for the cutting edge graphics.
If all we cared about was graphics then we wouldn’t be playing on any console, PC’s would be the one and gaming format, but its in a poor third place.
So my conclusion is all you pixel counters that insist on turning a comparision into a cock fight, your just attention seeking mommy boys.
Enjoy your games, stop trying to make out every little difference matters because people who play and enjoy games, don’t care.
BIG TIE GAME