So which BETA comes out on top in the performance department?

Welcome back for another exciting Head2Head. Today we take two exclusive giants and compare their performance differences. Keep in mind, these are both BETA versions and we are fully aware that many things might change when they hit store shelves this Fall. Nonetheless, we just couldn’t resist. We’ve been waiting for this a long time and we’re really excited to see results, aren’t you just a tad bit interested? So stick around while we put Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception and Gears of war 3 under our lens.
Below are the results of our analysis. As you can see by the video, both games ran close to 30 FPS. Subsequently though, Uncharted 3 did appear to dip in the low 20′s at some points in the video. On the flip side, Gears 3′s frame rate was much more consistent, managing to stay closer to that 30 FPS mark, but not with out a hitch; when it comes to screen tearing, it’s a completely different story. Its obvious which version had less tearing. The data provided showed that Uncharted 3 had almost zero screen tearing while the Gears of War 3 screen tore almost 5 percent of the time. Some pretty big differences if you ask us. Check out the stats below.
Below are the video and the frame analysis stats.
| Uncharted 3 Frame Analysis | Gears of War 3 Frame Analysis |
| Clip 1 info: Length of clip: 4907 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.96 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 1 info: Length of clip: 4907 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.80 Percent of torn frames: 3.98 |
| Clip 2 info: Length of clip: 2270 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.85 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 2 info: Length of clip: 2270 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.84 Percent of torn frames: 1.71 |
| Clip 3 info: Length of clip: 5555 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.99 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 3 info: Length of clip: 5555 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.77 Percent of torn frames: 2.56 |
| Clip 4 info: Length of clip: 2853 frames Average FPS of clip: 19.65 Percent of torn frames: 0.0 |
Clip 4 info: Length of clip: 2853 frames Average FPS of clip: 29.93 Percent of torn frames: 0.66 |
| Global percent of torn frames: 0.0 Global average FPS: 28.07 |
Global percent of torn frames: 4.81 Global average FPS: 29.82 |
Again, we know these are just BETA demos, and we can definitely except to see many updates before these two get released. We are huge fans of both the Uncharted and Gears of War series, and each BETA has blown our expectations out of the water. We hope you enjoyed watching this as much as we did making it, and make sure to check back when both games are released for some more “odd-ball” Head2Head fun.



July 1st, 2011
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You LOT guys must enjoy baiting flame wars like this, lol. Interesting comparison though. Surprised at the screen tearing on Gears. Seems Uncharted has no screen tearing at all, but a slightly lower frame rate. Both of those can easily be tweaked by release time.
Yeah honestly, I’ve lost some respect for Lens of Truth for doing this. They’re clearly just trying to rile people up.
Whats wrong with some competition in games anyways? They’re not doing this to rile people up at all, they’re just doing it for their love of gaming graphics. Get over it.
Well when the majority of the audience are uber-analytical boogers, it’s just too easy! If everyone started utilizing a little logic and spell check things might change! Maybe? Maybe not? Probably not…ha.
I do not understand why this comparison, are totally different games, with a different focus on graphics and gameplay …
I’m losing the respect I have for lensoftruth””
So you are losing respect for LOT because they wanted to compare the 2 biggest exclusives this year? this whole site was made to compare games, if you don’t like that, then that’s your problem, not LOT’s.
the site isnt called “lensofxbox360.com” or “lensofps3.com” this is what they do. some people just take it wrong and go crazy with it. i mean, single console owners do.. and i think they are being compared because they are the most anticipated games this year for each system (not hard to come up with that mystery)
LOL. Wow. Talk about starting something up!
Well the tearing will obviously be corrected before release on gears but the detail of gears’ environments was much higher, the amount of alpha was much higher, the amount of polys on the screen was much highter, I mean gears is just SUPERIOR here. Of course there wasn’t any tearing on uc3 because of the really low framerates and dumbed now effects that I just mentioned. Face it. 360 could run UC3 at 60 fps easily but ps3 would choke down to 10-15 fps trying to run Gears.
textures? Uncharted 3 has the best textures on console IMO. UC2 would be top 3 still IMO again. Gears 3 does look amazing, glad to see an exclusive on the xbox side that competes now. last time that happened was in 2006 lol, when the little brother was born. hehehehe, good times
Maybe if UC3 was being run in 360p for Xbox. How many exclusives on xbox are sub-HD?? Quite a bit. Now, how many are sub-HD for Ps3? None.
However, I must say, I cant wait for Gears 3. So far it looks amazing, as does Uncharted 3
@THEANTHOY
actually resistance 3 is sub-hd, rachet and clank crack in time, rdr and gta4 on ps3. while the 360 versions are 1280×720 full hd.
also not all ps3 games support 1080p upscaling such as god of war 3, majority capcom games.
Dude naughty dog chose ps3 over xbox for a reason. dont get me wrong i love gears playin it since 06 and cant wait for gow3 but the clearly ask “which game PERFORMS better” not graphics or detail and as of right now its a tie with no frame dops but tearing and vice versa for uncharted. but i can tell you right now the 360 could not run uncharted no less at 60fps thats rediculous. but you are probably right when you say ps3 cant run gears, i’ll agree with that. but thats why the devs make it a console exclusive and not multiplat because those devs (epic and naughty dog) know how to work there games on the single console their games are on. imagine if you handed epic the story and writing for uncharted and handed naughty dog the story and writing for gow, it would be completely different and i dont think either game would be as ground breaking as they are today. all im saying is the devs chose their console and wanted it exclusive for a reason
The PS3 fanboys using programs to change the IP, and voting several times in uncharted … LOL
I refuse to vote for either game for that reason, both have their ups and downs.
I’m suprised that you were suprised by screen tearing in gears of war 3… because the first two had plenty of it, so I don’t see why it’s a suprise. Uncharted 1 had lots of screen tearing as well, but they completley fixed that with uncharted 2, and apparently 3 has none either. Not flaming just mentioning that the first two gears had plenty of screen tearing so it’s not a suprise.
This is the ultimate challenge between the top two exclusive titles between rival consoles – the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Although both games look great their are some major differences in the graphics engine. Preferably the Xbox 360 has the superior GPU and apparently the easiest system to program – since Microsoft has the upperhand in experience building computers and software.
But the question relies if microsoft’s console could handle naughty dogs engine 3? The question is no ladies and gentlemen.
Therefore, I’m impressed not only by the graphics engine, but the extordinary gameplay; and the well organized story.
Such a story that should get an oscar.
gears 3 looks much more fun, with a lot more effects going on. The movement of characters also seem more fluid and natural, whereas in uncharted3, all the characters assume the same stiff position when shooting and look kinda awkward.
The movement animations look a lot more fluid in uncharted though. I’m not a big fan of the hunchback slow jog movement in gears.
open ur eyes, AINSLEY. I hope naughty dog corrects the character animation in multiplayer, it looks awful compared to uncharted 2′s character animation in multiplayer.
Uc2 also droped frames and tore in the beta , so expect this to be tidied up tbh, and I’d imagine gears 3 will be ok come release date too. Not sure on release of gears 3 , I think it’s august , and beta is month old at least, so they will minimise tearing, and uc3 not out till October or summat , so good few months left to amend those dropped frames.
That’s interesting because I didn’t notice any tearing in the UC3 beta… and let me tell you, I am the first person to notice this sort of thing. I specifically look everywhere for it, and I saw none, although I am prepared to admit that maybe I missed a spot, but I highly doubt the final release will have any at all, since they completley obliterated screen tearing for uncharted 2. By the way, anyone who uses the word fanboy I consider a biased person and always disregard their opnion. I can’t wait for both of these games by the way, I prefer UC3 though, I only like gears for the campaign single player and co op… the player vs. player in gears 1 and 2 were horrific.
All these types of articles do is just attract fanboys of both consoles in here like flies to shit. I’m very disappointed in you LOT.
What happened on that last uncharted clip?
The whole thing was running at around 20fps, but it didn’t seem all that different form the previous 2, which were near perfect 30fps.
It’s a bug. Happens at completely random times. The beta locks up your system very frequently as well. =\
If it’s a bug it really shouldn’t be included in the analysis, since it will definitely be fixed once the game comes out.
It didn’t seem like a bug since there was a lot going on in the screen. Explosions and shooting everywhere.
it was fixed on day one of the beta at like 1 in the morning. haven’t had a hiccup on the beta since.
Cant wait (=. Fanboys atack with all u got
I can sense the fanboys.
But IMO I just had more fun with the Gears beta. With so much time to polish, it’s only logical they’ll be tweaked by release. Same with UC3′s framerate.
1) Beta so yeah…Both games are from devs who know their hardware better than any other Dev….Naughty Dog masters the PS3 like no one else and Epic is somehow pushing the 360.
Probably both will be running better than their Beta Versions
BUT at the End > Uncharted 3 will win cause of more power and Naughty Dog has a lot more time left.Uncharted 3 is already yet looking better and has 2 months more time till releaseday than GoW3
Better looking? it looks worse than both Gears 3,Uncharted 2 and anyone find it strange that LOT left out two of the best looking maps in the beta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihcRDJjmkos&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jQ5xLqqq7M
I surprised the fact that they used in analyzing the worst map gears of war, demo, has much better maps and more beautiful than this
gears wins to show a map as a aTrenches and Old Town
just curious how LoT missed the two best looking maps in Gears 3 beta (trenches and old town)
Uncharted 3 all the way.
I also choose Uncharted 3. Uncharted 2 performed flawlessly and I’m Naughty Dog will polish Uncharted 3 insanely much
Gears 3 > Uncharted 3.
As far as multiplayer goes.
The single player will be interesting though, they’ve had so long to work on gears 3 and i’m expecting an epic campaign with stunning bosses aplenty being thrown at you.
Uncharted 3 will no doubt be great in single player as well, they might have to scale back some detail though as the framerate struggles at 18fps in the final clip.
I’m sure they’ll get it up to 19fps by the time the retail release comes around lol.
Just get both consoles and you’ll know what you have been missing.
Although I did laugh at that last sentence XD
You are really the worst of them all.
I think the framerate hicup in Un3 was a bug (a fluke) because I’ve been playing the beta and I haven’t seen anything like that. It’s really smooth 100% of the time.
Also, why did LOT say “almost zero screen tearing” about Uncharted 3. It’s Triple-Buffered V-sync… it should have NO screen tearing. “Almost” is not the same as “always”.
something is definitely awry , as I didnt see framerate drop from 30 for 3 clips, or a single screen tear, then it couldnt get above that 20 mark in clip 4,even when there was nothing going on , on screen. Very strange. id have assumed some sort of error of some kind, and done another analysis. I never saw framerate drop once in my playthrough
I own both consoles and have played Gears 1, Gears 2, Gears 3 beta, Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, and Uncharted 3 beta
UNCHARTED > GEARS OF WAR. OFFLINE as well as ONLINE. That is all…
Indeed. scary how Uncharted’s multiplayer was still better than Gears’ and it didn’t even have it.
oh yeah retard? If you read what I typed notice I said Uncharted 1, 2, and 3 beta vs Gears 1, 2, 3 beta. You being the butthurt fanboy you are only saw UNCHARTED > GEARS OFFLINE AND ONLINE. So obviously when I said ONLINE I’m talking about 2 and 3 beta… geez stupid is as stupid does I guess.
Lol you’re right ghostdog. Stupid is as stupid does. If you weren’t so sensitive and didn’t assume I was being sarcastic against you, you would have realized I was agreeing with you.
“I’m sure they’ll get it up to 19fps by the time the retail release comes around lol”
Good one, Android…though we both know that clip seems might suspicious compared to the smoother clips with similar visual stressors(explosions, gunshots, numerous players,etc). If we disqualify that clip, U3 vastly outperforms Gears 3.
Gears 3 Beta seems to have a framerate hovering around 25 FPS during firefights with screen tearing present at 11 percent. This is a bit rough…but it’s a beta and all .
Uncharted 3 (minus clip 4) has a rock-solid 30 FPS with ZERO screen tearing.
Advantage Uncharted 3
My favorite troll on LOT by far. I love how you so skillfully say the stupidest most inaccurate shit in the most intelligent way stupid, inaccurate shit can be said. Only thing that needs to be known is Uncharted 3 will be Game of the Year AGAIN. That’s the only difference anyone needs to know. And no, poor poor poor android. Uncharted 3′s multiplayer surpasses Gears 3′s in every sense of the word. And Gears 3′s at least from the beta, is damn excellent.
“I love how you so skillfully say the stupidest most inaccurate shit in the most intelligent way stupid, inaccurate shit can be said.” UNIVERSUSALLGAMER
I’m sorry, but that deserves to be quoted. Comedy gold.
You are a moron everyone and their mother knows Uc 3 will run 30 fps with no framerate issues.Your queers of war has screen tear and looks very dated.You should really buy some glasses and get real.Single player Uc 3 will win hands down Queers of war is the same run and gun bs like the two before it.They won’t scale anything back it’s a beta noob, they have to fix the loose ends.You know nothing about game devlopment it’s really sad.Uncharted 3>>>>Queers of war 3.
great way to get your point across!:)
you know, why do hpocrites like you bag the game and not the person saying it? your the one who looks the the idiot now, not ANDROID.
Nobody on here takes ANDROID seriously, he is like the village idiot (not in a bad way) who brings humor and discussion on here. If he were typing in an aggressive tone like yourself, then people would think he is a d!&k. The fact is, whether ANDROID owns Uncharted or not, he seems intelligent enough to know it’s a great game. It doesn’t seem apparent in his posts that he is over the top angry and mad that he doesn’t have it.
people like yourself who are defending the game they play and bag the other are even worse, as you are so clouded and angry that you do exactly what made you reply in the first place.One word……..Hypocrite.
Besides, people on here know both are great games, if you have an xbox i’d recommend Gears 3, if you have a playstation i’d recommend Uncharted 3.If you don’t like Gears that’s fine, its not everyones cup of tea. but don’t bring biased discussion on this site, especially the kind that creates a flame war between PS3 and Xbox 360. I like to think this site has the most opinionated and intelligent people on the internet.
I’ll just buy both. These are 2 franchises that can’t be missed out on.
Why would they leave out Trenches and Oldtown when they are graphically leaps and bounds ahead of Checkout and Thrashball? LOT even said themselves those maps were by far the best looking. I just don’t want a comparison of the worst looking Gears 3 maps and then everybody thinking it holds true for every section of the game.
Why doesn’t LOT do Uncharted 3 co-op gameplay versus Gears 3 co-op horde mode?
This will be Killzone 3 vs Crysis 2 all over again. Uncharted 3 will win hands down, although I’m getting Gears 3 also.
Win in what way? If Uncharted 3 manages to edge out Gears of War 3 in graphics than what kind of an accomplishment is that? What is the point of looking better if there isn’t a whole lot going on? It seems kind of odd to me that people can’t put two-and-two together and realize what each game is doing and then compare that to how they look.
Funny how it takes a 3rd party developer to get the best out of the 360 since Microsoft’s 1st party studios fails at doing so.
Even then they still can’t have Gears 3 looking as good and running as smooth as the Uncharted 3 beta. lol Screen tearing galore!
It was beta tbf, as was uc3, and epic effectively are first party devs as they were involved in development if 360, and ue3 is heavily in favour of 360 architecture.
Both look great IMO , and gears 3 has more alpha effects in play, but no aa, whilst uc3 has a mlaa based alternative AA , but less in way of alpha.
Each to their own in terms of which people thinks look better IMO .
Just watched the video and clip 4 looks like a bug/glitch that made the framerate drop to 20fps. The reason I believe it’s a bug is because the previous clips of the same map were fine.
I’m sure this will get sorted before the game ships. They’ve still got about 3 months of coding to go.
Both games are going to have bugs… they’re betas afterall.
Naughty Dog isn’t going to let their game drop to 20fps (they’re perfectionists).
During my time spent with the beta so far, I haven’t seen the framerate drop at all. (by the way, I can’t visibly see the difference between 29fps and 30fps, but I definitely can tell when a game drops to 20fps).
Both gears and uncharted are some of the best games on the systems, but I have to say, after playing them all through multiple times – Uncharted completely wipes the floor with gears. As for the betas
I’ve only played UC3 and it’s awesome. Gears 1 & 2 weren’t great online at all so I’m not that bothered how it turns out.
Can’t wait for these games!
Metacritic disagrees with your assessment of the respective series. Gears of War 1 and Gears of War 2 average a higher combined score as opposed to Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2.
I’m just trying to balance out the fanboyism, so forgive my intrusion.
That’s funny, seeing as Uncharted 2 has a higher score than both Gears 1 and 2. Uncharted 1 only has it’s low score simply because the present gaming industry simply doesn’t appreciate single player only titles, and lack of online multiplayer does affect alot of judgment now adays. Regardless, Uncharted 1 was a fantastic game.
It’s funny because I clearly said average combined score. I know shocking right. I stated it that way because I know people would bring up the one-hit wonder Uncharted 2, and then say the entire Uncharted series is higher rated even though it is not.
If I’m honest, uc1 wasn’t a great game, it was very good, but not great, uc2 was polished within an inch of it’s life, and just bettered uc1 in every way.
Gears 1 was much better than 2 as a campaign IMO, the 2nd one just didn’t feel like the game had progressed , and just felt like more of same.
Batman Arkham Asylum is single player…yet it has better score.
Im not saying Uncharted is bad, that’s far from the truth, but that’s not the reason(no multiplayer)
Bioshock and Assassin’s Creed 2……that is all
Fanboyism? It’s merely an opinion. no need to be so rash at name calling. I’m just saying that it’s MY OPINION that uncharted is a better series overall.
I didn’t say anything about review scores did I?
Seeing as I own both gears and uncharted games (and think they’re awesome) I don’t really think i qualify for ‘fanboy’ material, I just think that uncharted is the better game.
I took your meaningless and non-objective opinion and countered it with evidence. That probably blows your mind, right?
If saying Uncharted wipes the floor with Gears isn’t fanboyish, than what is? Just because you try and quantify your statement by saying you have supposedly played the game, doesn’t make you different from the other fanboys that claim the same thing.
@ ARMAGEDDONOMEGA
Mate. I don’t care. You didn’t blow my mind. -I- think uncharted is better. Gears is really good but as a whole series I think Uncharted is better.
Stop trying to be clever. I can pull facts off of the internet too. ( now you’re gonna write some gammy reply that will ‘blow my mind’ again…don’t bother )
…I’m a fanboy that’s gonna buy the game that I’m apparantly against and enjoy it?
/ why are you telling me I haven’t played two games that I currently own and have completed like 3 times each? you don’t know me fool. (:
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said you can’t have an opinion without evidence to back it up; I was just implying it has little merit. I also never said you haven’t played Gears. I was just pointing out that countless people use that exact excuse, and in this case it seems that you have never given Gears any real chance. I could of course be wrong, but I only have the information presented here to base my responses off. It is not my fault that I don’t know you, so you can’t condemn me for not knowing what you have and haven’t played.
@ ARMAGEDDONOMEGA
Your comment is misleading and full of fanboyism. You only mentioned the combined Metacritic score in an attempt to make it seem like the Ge0W series is better. Here are the facts.
- GeoW 1 was rated higher than UC 1.
- UC 2 was rated higher than GeoW 2.
- GeoW 1 was rated higher than GeoW 2. Seems like they headed in the wrong direction as sequels should improve the game.
- UC2 rated higher than UC 1. They headed in the right direction, the sequel improved every aspect of the game.
I thought you were arguing against me for a second until I realized you only elaborated on my point. Gears of War is a higher rated series on average, is it not? The details are obvious and not needed. I was not manipulating nor omitting information and my point still stands.
Gears 1 was great and Gears 2 was a let down. Gears 3 however, has drastically improved from Gears 2. Uncharted 3 on the other hand, at this point in time, is pretty damn close to Uncharted 2. Some aspects are even worse such as the performance, lag, controls, and graphics for the most part.
So with Gears 3 making dramatic improvements over its predecessor and Uncharted 3 making small gains if any, which series is truly heading in the right direction?
@ ARMAGEDDONOMEGA
Also you are basing these on a Beta version and this is just your opinion? according to your other reply I thought you couldn’t express your opinion without ‘mindblowing’ evidence…
@ ARMAGEDDONOMEGA
I was not arguing your point nor agreeing with it. Just pointing out that there is no merit in weighing an average of only TWO games. GeoW having a better Metacritic average for TWO games means nothing when both of those games are below UC 2′s score. Now if you were weighing an average of a handful of games that would change things since it would give it more merit. Basically, TWO of anything is not enough to gauge overall quality… which is why your comment was misleading.
You are right though… GeoW 1 was a great game. GeoW 2 only scored as high as it did because of the name. GeoW 2 was just more of the same, the only notable difference in story was Dom’s search for his wife. It seems they are continuing this trend in GeoW 3 with Marcus searching for his father.
GeoW 3 does improve upon GeoW 2, but not to the extent you are making it out to be. Take the visual fidelity for example… though improved, by no means is it dramatic. The fact that UC 3 even slightly improves on UC 2 speaks volumes considering UC 2 is better than both GeoW titles. To be honest, visually UC 2 is more appealing than GeoW 3 IMO.
OH CMON!! Both are awesome!! but to me UC3 looks more fun… Didnt play it yet…
FANBOY WARS IN 3, 2, 1….
Something isn’t right here because when i played the gears 3 beta the frame rate would drop so bad at times that the game was unplayable.
Man these are interesting comments. I guess you should get off LOT because they are apparently lying. I mean the endless forum topics, posts, reviews, and Youtube videos of the Uncharted 3 beta dropping frames and freezing are all staged of course. While the almost non-existent performance issues in Gears 3 (Except when people are chucking smoke grenades and blowing each other apart in one area) is just a cover up by Microsoft. It is so clear to me now that your one exaggerated experience reflects the game as a whole. I admire and respect your input.
Give credit where credit is due. The Gears of War 3 beta did maintain better performance, regardless of the reasons why Uncharted 3 could not. We all know this will change so calling foul at this point in time is moronic at best.
The Uncharted 3 Beta had it’s issues Day 1, when the Beta hit North America, and a few million people flooded into it at once. Naughty Dog noticed the problem instantly, and within a day, put out one patch that fixed every issue it had, and now the Beta is running perfectly. You obviously havn’t played it yet, and get your false info from forums, and use it to attack people, hypocrite.
Interesting. So you believe LOT did their entire analysis within a day, and the gameplay videos on Youtube were all also released day 1 as well? The forums on Naughty Dog’s website, while clearly having time stamps, were obviously planted by Microsoft too.
I’m glad there are intellects like you that scour the internet bringing truth and reason to every corner of the web. Please keep up the good work, I can’t even imagine what this place would be like without guys like you.
Trust me I’ve played gears probably more then anybody on LoT. I played it competitively on Gamebattles for years! The framerate would drop very bad on trenches and old town to the point that i had to stop playing. Uncharted on the other hand was just unplayable period with it’s freezing and random lock ups until the patch that came out the other day. I’ve said this before and I’m saying it again, Gears 1 is the best gears out of all of them. The rest are no good and not nearly as fun as the first one.
I played the beta for uncharted 3 and it ran as smooth as silk”im not sure what happend to it when LOT were testing it but it seems to me that this beta is so big that everyone was trying to get on it all at the same time:}maybe thats why it dropped in frame’s,But im sure that uncharted 3 is gona rock when finished”as will gears 3″But i would just like to say something about gears as in the past mainly gears 2,dont get me wrong i think there great games but to be honest im more into the co op story mode”as moast of the time i played gears 2 online it suffers a lot with lag”im not saying gears 3 will be as bad but im sure it will have some there,as will uncharted 3′but uncharted games seem to run better online,anyway im lucky because i have the two consoles’so i will get them both:}Also’while the gears games are verry cool games’and i do enjoy playing them,its just the uncharted games completely blow me away”just my point of veiw.
Uncharted has better textures, and much more interactive and cinematic environments. On top of that, the use of the PS3 MLAA is going to ensure that the game looks and runs great. The customization is awesome, the power plays make the matches much more interesting, and the game modes, along with the updated cinema, are all good fun. Naughty Dog did it again, with a very fantastic title.
Gears looks alright, but there are no drastic changes to the competitive multiplayer. It’s still a: pick your oily meathead, grab a shotgun, and run around f*cking everybody up. It’s good fun, but in the end, it’s the same Gears of War we’ve played this gen, in terms of competitive multiplayer.
All that being said, I will give credit to EPIC for Horde 2.0. I’ll probably be playing that alot more than the competitive multiplayer, provided it doesn’t lag, like Horde 1.0 did. Not to mention the single player will probably be pretty decent, given all the time that EPIC has had to develope the game.
It doesn’t sound like you have played the other Gears.Lets just say that you have, you wouldn’t have liked it because it is one of the most skillful shooters this gen. Im not even saying its the best, but definately one of the most skillful. Why do not as many people play gears and killzone, because they cant jump right in and be good at it like COD.
Trust me, i have recommended Gears 1 to many many friends. they go online, get 0 kills and 12 deaths for 3 days staright and quit. it takes about a month to get into. gameplay wise you mentioned? any gears veteran like myself will tell you the second was miles away from the first. much much slower. the third is way faster and takes way less skill. hence why the third is so popular among ppl who never liked the first 2. Besides, the third is way more of a retro lancer then shotgun now. each map plays different. checkout is the shotty map from the beta.
And yes, They showed the maps that had the crapper graphics by far (to the eye). Uncharted 3 has better graphics, but it would have been fairer if they showed the colourful old town
I think Gears 3 muliplayer is better, but cmon guys. This was asking for performance. I voted Uncharted 3, it clearly has better performance. I had pretty much none whatsoever in gears 3, but i had no problems at all with UC3.
People who say Gears gameplay has been the same online since the first is proof they have either never played them, or quit very early because they were asking themselves how they were dying so easily. When i first started gears 1, it took me a good month to be able to hold my own against the majority of players. It is a very skillful game, except for the third which is very fun in its own right. I can also back this up as veteran gears agree, and my friends who sooked off gears 1 and 2, they loved the G3beta and were getting kills.
Nuff said
Yes Dylan! my point exactly, Gears 1 required skill to be good at it. When they added stopping power to gears 2 everybody started using the lancer and hammerburst. That’s when it became not fun anymore. Gears 1 was just so fast paced and the movement was perfect, I hate how they had to go and change it in gears 2 and 3. If they didn’t change the movement i would be playing gears 2 right now!
I should play with you some time. Gears 1 was the best. Gears 3 was very fun. i got like a 3.4 kd overall, no bot farming either. nice to see some fresh meat coming in to the series. Let us veterans wish they never pre-ordered gears 3. HOO-RAH
Btw, u live in america or where? (lol sounds like im tryin to pick up in public place……lame)
Don’t forget the Smoke grenade knockdown before the patch. Good thing they saw it was crap and removed it. Like many others have stated GeoW1 still reigns supreme over Geow2+patches. I can’t judge about Geow3 haven’t played the beta, i like to avoid beta’s. I wish they went back to the roots and made Geow3 like GeoW1, based on other comments that’s not gonna happen sadly. I will still enjoy the MP but never as much as i did with Geow1.
p.s. Sorry if my english is not correct, i’m a dutchie
VAN DAMNE SAYS HI
If it were like Gears 1, i can gaurantee you that it would have only 50,000 preorders, as opposed to over a million. People are to used to playing games like COD that my mother could play and get used to within the hour (she has never played games)….
Send me a friend request, My gamertag is unscarred785. I live in New York actually lol.
ok, i’ll go on XBL right now and add you. It is the most fanboy GT ever, so i wont post it on here. Just as i wouldnt post my ID on here as well. either side would view me as a fanboy lol
I’m not home right now so i can’t accept it. Also my PSN is unscarred785 too.
don’t laugh at it please. my psn isn’t any better lol. i don’t game on psn very often, mainly for exclusives, but looking at my xbl you might be able to figure it out
Yes, I have played previous Gears titles, and yes I played the multiplayer for both. Gears 1 is one of my favorite games this gen, though I really didn’t care much for Gears 2. The multiplayer for Gears is fun, in my opinion, but it’s nothing that really sticks out. I mostly enjoyed the story. I would have liked Gears 2 because of Horde mode, but it just lagged too much everytime I tried playing with 4 people, and I just got bored.
don’t worry, it was more of a rhetorical question. sorta like “wow, really? i cant believe he just said that”.
and yes, horde was pretty laggy. and no, i wouldnt be complaining about it if you have played odst firefight (The whole time, online or local, it is like running at 5 FPS. i sh1t you not
i agree with your statement 100%, even tho i never played any gears game i do i agree that killzone is requires a great amount of skill, in my opinion killzone is the most hardcore game this gen, why? because the game was just though, that campaign on elite took me 1 month to finish, 2 weeks to get to the last level and one week to finish the last level and radic, the game also requires you to be among the best players in the world for a trophy, but only the hardcore got it, as a killzone veteran killzone 3 really was made more noob friendly like cod (just like gears according with your experiences). i dont like when the words cod and hardcore are in the same statement because cod really is not hard, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mvBmDvt71E
Yeh, everyone that i played Gears with over the years had great respect for killzone. even those who didn’t also have ps3′s were wanting to save up so they could play it. Just dissapointing when great games don’t sell that much (killzone 2 and 3) because other than the fact not many people knew about the 1st, it wasn’t as simple as shooting first like COD.
I know consoles deserve their exclusives, but i’d like to see killzone go multi-plat, maybe next generation if the xbox upgrades the dvd crap. at least for guerrila, i’d like them to gain more public recognition.
I am very suprised that every fanboy on this page including me has some respect for the other console. I have PS3 only and I have never played any gears, but I’d like to. But if it comes to Uncharted I’ve played two previous games and I love them. I wasn’t playing a lot multiplayer in Unchated 2, but I think it will change with Drake’s Deception.
I play beta a lot and I have to say that it’s way better than Among Thiefs. It still take some time for me to find a match, but it’s worth waiting for it. All in all I can’t wait for UC3, Naughty Dog is one of the best developers in the world now (as Epic Games) and they just can’t fail, I think, that they will even make a better game than we expect.
Uncharted 3 is triple buffered hence no screen tear. It does have latency implications which is not ideal for multiplayer but it’s not too bad. Graphics wise I think this round goes to Gears (not based on this video but on having played both) but I suspect come final release time Uncharted 3 will end up the better looking single player.
mlaa? I’d rather keep the aa method from uc2 because I had no problems with jaggies, but hey if mlaa could make it better then be my guest.
Uncharted and Gears are similar, but Uncharted is altogether the better game.
Uncharted 3 beta is amazing. However, even after the patch I’ve still had it glitch in one match and then turn black during the airplane takeoff cutscene on the airstip, and then after it synced up I’m guessing, the airplane cutscene was just two propellers taking off.
Anyways. The first three minutes of Uncharted 3′s Airstrip while you’re either in the trucks or on the plane is amazing. I like both the Chateau and the Airstrip, but the Airstrip wins overall.
Both games look awesome but Uncharted 3 just has that small definitive edge over Gears. I mean, there’s a bug that causes framerate drops that I experienced quite early, but they patched that. Apart from that, it runs at a perfect 30fps with no screen tearing, even in the start of the airstrip level!
/ honestly don’t care which beta is better.
They are BETAS.
Although getting both games day 1, I honestly think Uncharted 3 will be better. Not to say gears 3 is looking bad, I just think I’ll enjoy uncharted more (:
( really enjoying being able to buy games on release due to buying-fixing-selling RROD xbox 360′s. My room is currently flooded with xbox’s and xbox box’s pahaha)
You should just stop buying and fixing Xbox 360s if you are that incompetent at taking care of them. Fixing them is a waste too because you can get a 100% reimbursement for the initial purchase price, tax, and warranty in a shorter amount of time. You just send in your 360 and they give you a gift card for whatever retailer you choose. It’s not that hard.
PS3s have about the same fail rate as 360s too.
WOAH. what crawled up your ass? :L
I have one xbox that i bought as a rrod and i fixed it and then modded it so it looks awesome (and runs cooler)
And i’m making about £20 on each xbox soo…. i should stop making profit because some guy from the internet who i angered (somehow) told me to?
Also i think you missed the point. I BOUGHT the RROD 360′s off ebay… and i am now fixing them to sell them on as refurbished…
Jesus, man. Slow the hate. Spread a little peace, please xx
ALSO, Mr.
I didn’t say anything about Ps3 fail-rates? I’m choosing not to buy YLOD Ps3′s cos they’re more expensive and more trouble to fix?
Again, you condemn me for your inadequacy. Explain yourself, you have plenty of room.
It is logical to assume that someone who was arguing along typical fanboy lines, who then mentions having all kinds of RROD Xbox 360′s in his room, is trying to make the 360 seem inferior. That is a major coincidence, so you can see why I reacted as such.
ALSO ALSO.
I Like the gears of war games. They are epic.
i got your meaning. i know ebay do that shit too. good on you, its a win win. u get paid and the guy gets his xbox back, only for it to break in a few weeks because you did a shoddy repair job lol(i kid, i kid
)
Anyways, xbox 360 failure rate was like way way higher than the ps3. originals were at least 30% compared to 1% or less ps3. with the slims out though, it might be even. thats just what i heard anyway.
i have had 1 RROD with a falcon model, got it repaired free (so it should be, or else i’d sue the bastards lol) plus with gold subscription. sorta a gift saying “PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU DONT FUC**NG SUE USSSS”
I have a lot of RROD 360s you can have lol.
ahaha I admire your tenacity (:
I think we’re just misunderstanding each other ( the internet is a terrible place for communication )
I can see that the RROD part was seen like that, but I can assure you I’m equally partial to an all-nighter gaming sesh on either console.
..right not kidding.. but the xbox i’m currently playing on has red-ringed. HA.
no, it’s not funny. I’m actually quite upset now ):
GRRRRRRRRRr. DAMN YOU E74 ERROR.
WHY ALICE:MR WHY.
Look what you’ve done to ma sexbox ): !
lol. NEWS UPDATE: RANDOM JACKASS ANALYST SAYS ALICE:MADNESS RETURNS PUSHING XBOX 360 TO ITS LIMITs!” now that would generate some mother fu^&ing traffic.
seriously though.
It froze whilst playing the game.
then proceeded to freeze several times on start-up
and now outright refuses to start by giving me the big, fat middle finger that is the E74 error.
paha, this is the last thing i expected whilst playing this game.
(it’s actually a really good game if you were a fan(boy) of the first)
Why did they only show the two ugliest gears 3 maps, from a design point of view. The other two show off the lighting effects etc so much better. Ahh well. Both games looking nice. Not too impressed with the character movement on UC3 though. Think UC2 looked better. Image is slightly blurrier too. They aren’t using MLAA in it or something?
Uncharted 3 will most likely have better story telling while gears 3 will have a much more intense. Multiplayer gears 3 will b more fun than uncharted 3′s but it will still be good.
And unscarred u may have played gears 1 on gamebattles but i played gears 1 trimmed the moment I got himefrom school till i went 2 sleep at midnight n would pull all nighters on weekends so odds are i playedgears 1 more than 99% percent of everyone who ever played it
Both are going to be absolutely great games that will be remembered in decades. they would both be in top 5 games this gen i’d say.
I think Gears 3 will get a higher meta than Uncharted 3. here’s why:
Gears 2, many thought failed. it got 93 on meta i think. take into account that the 3rd has improved graphics and everything, multiplayer especially, campaign much longer, better version of horde by far, plus beast mode.
I’m not saying which i will prefer, i’m more of a story guy, so i’d go UC3 campaign, Gears 3 multi. obviously i’ll love both campaigns, and the MP of both are great.
just take into account, UC2 got a 96, so going above that is a feat that happens not many times. Ocarina of time shit right there.
now considering gears 2 was considered by many fans as worse than gears 1(94), i think gears 3 should get at least 95. same with UC3.
then again, who knows. maybe one will shift with campaign that freezes and sends a ghastly girl out of your tv who tries to kill you. dunno guys……..
I really do not understand why people (such as Dylan_2202, Android, dialgamarine) put so much stock in Metacritic. It’s a fine aggregated review source, but it should not be “the end all be all” of a game’s success. Word of mouth, appreciation from within the gaming community and cultural impact are far more important to the long term success of a game…hell, even sales are more important then metacritic scores!
you screwed up. sales don’t mean squat. if it did, you are admitting that the COD series is best of all time.
i don’t have “faith” in meta scores, some of the games they give low scores for i disagree. for instance, the darkness (82-83), i’d probably give a 10 because its one of my favourite shooters.
DIALGAMARINE,ANDROID123 and myself use META to balance the argument. for instance, “this game is way better than that”.
“but the meta says this, so what you said can’t be true”.
its just a moot point in an argument. a meta is if not more credible than a fanboy, at least the same as considering its based off many peoples opinions, thus getting a greater average opinion.
Don’t know why you even asked that, people on this site usualy only use it for argument, unless they state it first without reason.
Metacritic utilizes an unrevealed weighing system for their cumulative average…this is SUPER suspicious. Who knows if Playstation Magazine or whatever Microsoft’s rag is titled weighs more than less biased sources like Giant Bomb. Until that equation is released…I refuse to use the site’s score as a meaningful statistic. Also, metacritic does not usually reflect which console build is superior, as most critic outlets will only review one edition of the game. Exceptions exist (Bayonetta), but LA Noire (which is undeniably stronger on Sony’s console…no arguments) has the same score across the platforms.
Deep down inside you know it’s complete garbage to bring up metacritic (or any critic scores) for justification for superiority of one console over the other. Unless a schism exists between the same game on different platforms, it’s meaningless to compare the scores of Uncharted 2 to Gears 2. Two different games, two different opinions.
For the record, I do not believe COD is the best series of all time. My crack about sales was not to state how much value I put in VgChartz placements (proud owner of Deadly Premonition and Vanquished right here), but rather to show how little that site’s “average” weighs in my opinion.
In fact, everyone should stop drooling over metacritic scores. I recommend everyone find three or four critics you enjoy (for tastes and writing talents) and stick with them. It will give you a much much more accurate picture of what to expect.
tl;dr–Metacritic is screwy and weighs reviews differently. Find three critics you agree with and read their reviews/opinions not the metacritic “average”
again, if you can read properly, or even bothered to understand what i said, i only bring up metacritic to put water on the flame war so to speak. its just my way of saying “your ‘opinion’ is very biased, as there are others out there (meta) which will disagree with you”
i don’t use meta as solid proof, as it is all opinion. it just a way of saying “whatever you believe others may believe differently so no-one is correct, and perhaps you should stop wearing your fanboy goggles.”
and i do in fact find it rude, not just for my sake but also for android and dialga to bring us up as if we have done something wrong,
when we(well at least ‘I’) have only ever used meta to open peoples eyes to the fact that whatever one gets a higher meta doesnt mean it is bettter. i never said gears 3 will be the better game, i just believe it will recieve a higher meta for the reasons i listed, and whether you agree with it or not is solely up to you, just that gears 3 has the advantage, as it doesn’t have to “defend the crown” so to speak, Uncharted does.
I do not understand why this comparison, are totally different games, with a different focus on graphics and gameplay
I do not understand why this comparison, are totally different games, with a different focus on graphics and gameplay …
I’m losing the respect I have for lensoftruth””
It’s bait for fanboys hence the vast amount of comments and arguing.
you forgot “Bitching” it would seem……..no offence MISACKBLAZE. oh shit, i gave it away lol. hhahahah jokes
y u such a fanboi, yh?
I hate u.
F*&k da police
This is a good comparison. hopefully the mostly positive feedback will give others an opinion they didnt want to hear. perhaps some people who were only going to buy 1 will buy both now.
Also, i think its good. The traffic on this site has slowed recently, so the more the merrier i say. without enough people, the staff have no reason to make these comparisons, so we all lose.
Ah, “odd-ball” Head2Heads… gotta love them… they’re so full of life… so rich of humanity…
I gotta hand it to the staffs of Lens of Truth, these kind of topics never fail to entertain.
Now let’s all LOL.
They both look amazing in their own rights. The Gears 3 beta definitely performed better in my opinion, but I’ve been playing more of the Uncharted 3 beta than Gears 3 beta.
I played the U3 beta for about 10h now and never have had such a crazy framerate drop.
You guys must have been really lucky in this analysis to get a clip like that.
I play and liked both but!!!!………..
I liked more Uncharted 3, Gears is the same thing, run, defend, punch, aim and shoot…
Uncharted, run, defend, moves, go up, go down, jump, aim, shoot, protect, save, get and throww, help friend in need….
I like more Uncharted type gameplay, off and online, Gears is very fun, but some times is boring, BLOODD!1 HOOHOOO MORE BLOODD!!!! SHAUshaushUAHS
Gears is the Second best game of Microsoft, Halo is the TOP for me on XBox, PS3 is Uncharted for me ;D
100 comments made by about 7 people. I’m responsible for 101.
A excluvive game running at 19 fps isn´t good.
well, gears of war 3 beta has been out longer so there are probably several patches into it, and uncharted 3 was forced into a “public” private beta after the PSN fiasco with an immediate patch to address some of the framerate and freezing problems…… sticking with uncharted 3.
I Dont know which one is better, but im sure this console are maxed out we need new hardware in 2012 !
The provided video displays interesting results:
Gears 3: Frame rate dips down to 24FPS during firefights with screen tearing hanging out around 11.2 percent during the most visually stressful situations. Disappointing, but it’s still the beta. Microsoft should be looking for new hardward ASAP as Gears 4 or Halo 4 will likely be reigned in to achieve a half way decent FPS or screen tearing percentage on this aging console.
Uncharted: I have my doubts about the validity of the infamous clip 4. Seems to fly in the face of the benchmarks set in the other LoT clips. I’m guessing the poor performance is another one of the numerous Beta glitches Naughty Dog is ironing out. Regardless, U3 is 30 FPS SOLID at virtually all times; even in firefights. Impressive with zero screen tearing to boot. The PS3 does not even seem to be stressing with it, great sign for further game development
Winner: Uncharted 3!
ps3 wins this head to head
Lot staff,this is some new batman Arkham City (demo) gameplay
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/07/01/watch-12-minutes-of-batman-arkham-city-if-you-dare/
eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-shadows-of-the-damned-face-off
This article should wrap up the shadows arguments, that still raged on after the head2head.
They gave ps3 slight win.
ill take this brief moment to be smug, about the fact that I was right, that ue3 texture loading issues are rife in this game, and this in part explains majority of texture differences seen in the head2head. The issue is worse on 360 in gameplay, but kicks up on cutscenes more on ps3, with map mapping slower to load.
Ps3 has better texture filtering, neither have aa but ps3 has slightly clearer image due to higher levels of AF, whilst 360 gets a motion blur not seen on ps3 version. Ps3 and 360 version have identical lighting, with some apparent ps3 bugs in lighting. Shadows are different with 360 dithered and ps3 hard, but i guess this is matter of choice.
360 suffers less from screen tear, but its not great either, but luckily on both screen tearing is hidden by the dark. Framerates are pretty even honours, with ps3 having an isolated incident of a drop to low 20′s, but this was at a point where it had no affect, and boss battles etc remained even.
Eurogamer’s face off of Shadow’s of the damned read more like a slight 360 win the more the article went on lol.
As i thought, should have been a tie.
Really? Was it the worse texture filtering in game, rather than mip mapping in cut scenes or the less clear image from inferior AF that read like that?
They judged the screen tearing to be not very intrusive, the motion blur on camera not particulary important to image quality , only found one unobtrusive frame rate drop, and a few lighting bugs on ps3.
Which part sounded like a 360 win ?
With performances in terms of frame rate almost like for like apart from one instance of frame rate dropping, the screen tear hardly noticeable, the only advantage 360 had was cut scenes and blur. Surely the majority of game textures and AF is more important ?
Slight, and is slight, ps3 win was their verdict , and mine too
“camera-based motion blur is absent though, appearing only on the 360 game”
“the 360 version has a more consistent lighting scheme”
“The frame-rate isn’t quite as smooth in some scenarios on the PS3″
“Shadows of the Damned treads familiar Unreal Engine 3 territory by being capped at 30FPS on both platforms, but with significantly more screen-tear on the PlayStation version”
Hmmm, so with all those issues straight from eurogamer’s mouth, slightly improved texture filtering(blink and you’ll miss it)on the ps3 version gives it the win.
A tie at best i believe lol.
Behave lol the textures are all around u, that same defense could be applied to so many 360 wins where you could say , “you blink and you will miss those textures “.
If we playing the quote game , I’ll join in.
“but on the whole it is the PS3 game which appears to be the more pristine of the two, even if it isn’t quite as strong in terms of overall performance – a relatively minor blip we’ll discuss later ”
“That said, we do find that the clarity and detail of the final image is given a tangible boost on the PlayStation 3 release. Higher levels of anisotropic filtering applied to the textures gives us a crisper overall presentation, while also delivering additional depth to the scene. ”
“Interestingly, despite the lack of mandatory install, it is the PlayStation 3 version that manages to stream in new art more quickly”
“The result is that the game feels more polished and solid on the Sony platform during gameplay: textures stream in with no fuss and are mostly displayed on cue, while on 360 the final high quality art is often still being loaded in as you play, leaving some rather plain, low resolution textures in full view.
“Better filtered textures lead to a more detailed overall presentation for one, while the lack of unsightly object pop-in during gameplay adds a greater degree of consistency to things in general. ”
“The frame-rate isn’t quite as smooth in some scenarios on the PS3, but when it counts – during the intense boss battles, or during combat with many enemies on screen in most areas – things are basically an even match. In one scene in our performance video, we see the PS3 version drop down as far as the low 20s, but this seems to be an isolated incident, and happens when quick reactions aren’t expected from the player. ”
There’s more positive statements in favour of ps3 than 360 , so that is as they said.. A ps3 win, but only slight.
I am going to rate your quote’s lol.
“but on the whole it is the PS3 game which appears to be the more pristine of the two, even if it isn’t quite as strong in terms of overall performance”
^Tie(one positive, one negative)
“That said, we do find that the clarity and detail of the final image is given a tangible boost on the PlayStation 3 release. Higher levels of anisotropic filtering applied to the textures gives us a crisper overall presentation, while also delivering additional depth to the scene. ”
^Ps3 win
“Interestingly, despite the lack of mandatory install, it is the PlayStation 3 version that manages to stream in new art more quickly”
“The result is that the game feels more polished and solid on the Sony platform during gameplay: textures stream in with no fuss and are mostly displayed on cue, while on 360 the final high quality art is often still being loaded in as you play, leaving some rather plain, low resolution textures in full view.
^Ps3 win(both quotes making the same point)
“Better filtered textures lead to a more detailed overall presentation for one, while the lack of unsightly object pop-in during gameplay adds a greater degree of consistency to things in general. ”
^Those points have already been made.
“The frame-rate isn’t quite as smooth in some scenarios on the PS3, but when it counts – during the intense boss battles, or during combat with many enemies on screen in most areas – things are basically an even match. In one scene in our performance video, we see the PS3 version drop down as far as the low 20s, but this seems to be an isolated incident, and happens when quick reactions aren’t expected from the player. ”
^360 win
So when you throw in my other 3 quote’s about 360 positive’s(4 in total), the 360 wins 4-2
As i said before, the UE3 is a good multiplatform engine(despite you thinking it’s rubbish).
The 360 has always suffered with slow texture loading on it(every bleedin game). UE3 favours the ps3 when it comes to streaming.
It’s a good middleware engine for parity, favouring the 2 different machines in different areas.
So a tie at best for Shadow’s of the damned
Good i’m glad that’s sorted then lol.
Also Android, u misrepresent my stance on ue3, its agood middleware engine, but not a great one, as it clearly favours the 360 architecture, and requires optimisation to get good results, and on top of that , it still has issues that exist on the hardware its meant to be highly compatible with, the 360.
heres quotes relating to these issues on Eg analysis of sotd.
“you might notice what looks like pared back texture details on both versions at various points. But in reality this has more to do with the game having a few asset-streaming and LOD (level of detail) issues than anything else: again, standard fare for the UE3 tech”.
“Grasshopper offers up a native 720p image with no anti-aliasing on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – pretty much the standard for Unreal Engine 3 in recent times. ”
“The only nagging issue we found with the PS3 version is something of a standard problem with UE3 titles: torn frames are much more prevalent in comparison to the same game running on 360.”
“In this scenario, tearing is both more frequent and heavier on the PS3 – though the Xbox 360 version clearly has some issues of its own in this regard too. ”
So we have screen tearing on both, worse on ps3 as standard on ue3, we have texture loading problems as standard, and no AA becoming prominent, hardly the stuff of greatness is it?
Then you have exclusives on 360 such as Gears 2, which are built around ue3 and optimised extensively, which still have the texture loading issues, and if we assume gears 3 will still have some screen tearing, texture loading issues,and still has no AA in finished product, thats not a great advert for the engine which is the flagship engine for 360 really. Surely they could sort out the texture loading issues at least?
Like u said its good middleware engine, but not great imo
“but on the whole it is the PS3 game which appears to be the more pristine of the two, even if it isn’t quite as strong in terms of overall performance”
^Tie(one positive, one negative)
Interestingly you cut this quote short, and conclude a tie. “on the whole” indicates that overall , its is “more pristine”, so is more refined as a product. Compare this to the second part of that quote u use to command a tie, which is” even if it isn’t quite as strong in terms of overall performance – a relatively minor blip we’ll discuss later”. Note the use of “relatively minor” here, indicating that , it wasn’t significant enough to affect it “overall” , “being more pristine”.
^ ps3 win, their conclusion, not mine .
You also conveniently separate out performance aspects from the 360 win into lighting, frame rate and screen tear, whilst lumping Af which added “clarity” and “depth” to the image, “Better filtered textures lead to a more detailed overall presentation “ into one category(clarity is different to detail). These points are not all the same at all. Add less texture loading issues into equation and thats four there. We could reduce frame rate, and screen tear down to one point, performance, and lighting and motion blur down to another point , maybe visual effects, giving 360 only two points in its favour. See how this worked in your favour your way?
What your argument also doesn’t factor in, is that the “blips” in framerate, are just that , blips, whilst the lighting bugs, are just that, bugs, and screen tear is deemed not “ enough to negatively colour the experience in an overly meaningful way. Screen tearing is noticeable in places, but at the same time it isn’t a massive issue, due in part to the dark nature of the game”, and they say also that “while the odd dips in frame-rate don’t tend to occur in any key action scenes where it would noticeably affect on your enjoyment of the game.
In contrast they feel that “So far then, PS3 has the edge visually. Despite some odd lighting issues and more aggressive LODs during the cut-scenes, there are obvious benefits in other areas which have more of a visible impact on the graphical quality of the game. Better filtered textures lead to a more detailed overall presentation for one, while the lack of unsightly object pop-in during gameplay adds a greater degree of consistency to things in general. The 360′s plus points – camera-based motion blur and a more consistent lighting scheme – are far more subtle in their appearance in comparison, and have less of an overall impact on the look of the game.” And “The gap between the gamma output on both systems also tends to accentuate the strength of the various shadows on the 360 in some scenes, hiding environmental detail in some scenes on the odd occasion.”
Clearly not all points are of equal importance, so simply totting them up, doesn’t give an accurate depiction of whole picture, which as we know they concluded “As for which version you should go for given the choice: both come recommended, each having its own plus points and minor issues. The additional texture clarity due to the use of better filtering on the PS3, along with improved assets streaming perhaps has more of a noticeable impact than the motion blur or the lighting advantages on 360. Performance however, favours Microsoft’s console, although the differences in this respect didn’t negatively affect the gameplay at all on PS3. In the final analysis, we find that the two are very close overall, but in the end the PS3 version comes across as being the slightly better of the two by a small margin. “
So clearly they felt that overall, the ps3 had slightly more in its favour, thus a ps3 win, but only slightly lol
I like the new DF contributor, David Bierton. He seems less biased towards the 360 then Richard Leadbetter was.
Yeah he doesn’t come across like a more intelligent version of truehurts , like leadbetter did.
Seems to stick to facts and doesn’t speculate on why things are way they are(usually concluding the 360 is superior in
Yeah he doesn’t come across like a more intelligent version of truehurts , like leadbetter did.
Seems to stick to facts and doesn’t speculate on why things are way they are(usually it’s that if 360 version is inferior , it’s bad programming, but if ps3 version is worse , it’s because of inferior hardware)
Gives balanced view if pros and cons of each version and that’s it.
EG readers are generally impressed by him too.
Right so i watched the clip again here. Clip 4 of UC3 i have realised why the framerate dropped so much. If you look at the first 3 clips, you’ll notice the games only seem to have a few people. The 4th clip has more people in it and is maybe even full. So a full game drops its fps even to as low as 16fps? With hardly any action? That needs sorting. And I don’t mean to be a pessimist but almost half frames at times means half the desired rendering. That is a lot of pixels and polygons to recover. Good luck naughty dog. I hope you can fix it.
They fixed it on the first and second day of the beta depending on your region.
They gave us the first patch which fixed the matchmaking issues, lag and framerate drops, and the beta has been running flawlessly ever since for me.
Speculation on your behalf to say the least. Uc2 ran mp with those numbers of players with a constant framerate. There’s also instances in clip 4 where there’s no one on screen and it’s not above 20, so it’s not the number of players. Furthermore there’s many of us here played the game and come across the situation where there’s been players on screen and no such frame rate crash.
It seems a strange anomaly that has probably been patched . The frame rate should go up in that clip when nothing is happening on screen, or should at least fluctuate, but it’s almost stuck. If it was the engine struggling, we should see it fluctuate in other clips , when there’s on screen action, but it doesn’t even move, which leads me to believe , it’s simply an anomaly
I heard gow3 is gona b 41 to 51 hours long just enjoy what u can get and stop arguing everyone
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I Didn't know that gears was an RPG now ?
I'd say more around the 10 hour mark.
I got the info from a gaming show called blurb.
going by that logic, skyrim should take over 1000 hours.
maybe you heard wrong, i thought it would be 50 percent longer, as apparently it is at the 10 hour mark or more.
i can see me getting over 50 hours complete within the week, but no, the campaign is about 20 per cent that long.
oh,oh do you also get to make Marcus Fenix a mage/warrior/archer etc???
skyrim is beter than COD don’t you agree
“skyrim is beter than COD don’t you agree”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
To answer that question I simply have this;
Is Uncharted better than Unearthed?…………..
I can’t really judge this since they’re both at their testing stages. It’s like trying out a half baked cake and giving your impressions. I rather wait till both products are at 100% to give my thoughts on it.
I Think you are all wrong.
The evident fps drop in Unch 3 is probably caused by the render of the flame of the two vehicles, the two pseudo Defender. Not a bug but an hw limit.
Behave lol, those flames in uc3 are relatively low res to avoid bandwidth issues( as most ps3 exclusives are) and naughty dog built a whole level around a flaming chateau, so do you think they would build a whole level around flames , if it would cause that kind of haemoraging of frame rates. ?? Be sensible lol
Naughty dog are widely renowned as best ps3 devs , do you think they would build an exclusive as big as ps3 exclusive as large as uc3 and knowingly build a level where frame rates drop to that kind of level?
I’m not convinced
Yeah… you should probably try harder.
look at these textures and models, are enough for you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=spzJSE1jJZ8#at=42
Damn, that looks amazing.
Yup I do think it looks amazing , and as I’ve said before , you can’t really even notice lack of AA when it’s in motion.