
When we hear anything that has to do with Bethesda Game Studios, two very specific thoughts come to mind. One of which is the reason behind our love toward them, which would be their massive and epic games that do nothing less than hook gamers in a intriguing world for months on end. Bethesda has had a very big impact on this generation of gaming and even managed to produce a Game of the Year on three separate occasions. The first of which was none other than The Elder Scrolls four: Oblivion. This massive fantasy style adventure offered endless possibilities and catered to multiple play styles that almost any gamer could enjoy. A few years later came Fallout 3, a game which offered an open world similar to Oblivion, but played more like a first person shooter RPG than anything else. This game gives players a first hand look at what it would be like to live in a post apocalyptic world torn apart by nuclear war with the freedom to influence the world you however you see fit, no matter how good or evil your actions may be. And finally we have our 2011 game of the year, Elder Scrolls Five: Skyrim. This game is everything that Oblivion was but with a few new features and a new leveling system that makes this new entry feel fresh and exciting. With so many smash hits under there belt, there is little doubt that Bethesda has been nothing short of a success during the current generation of Consoles.

The other thing that comes to mind however is the source of all of our hate towards Bethesda. While I feel I don’t even need to say it, their games are pretty much guaranteed to have a ton of bugs. Now lets give credit where credit is due, they do get patched and fixed pretty quick. Even so however, many of the bugs that buyers are forced to put up with should have NEVER made it out of development to begin with. In fact it is this very reason that many gamers will choose to wait for the Game of the Year editions of the game before venturing into the massive adventures that Bethesda brings to the table, due to the fact that these later editions will have all of the patches and DLC content included on the disk to ensure a smooth experience. But it should never have to be like that! When a game is set to be released on a certain date, the game is expected to work for everyone right out of the box. It shouldn’t mean that we have to be forced to wait a week or two after we purchase the game to be able to play it, and it certainly doesn’t mean putting out a prototype to have the consumer beta test for the inevitable Game of the Year edition. While this kind of behavior sadly seem to be normal amongst several developers these days, no one takes it as far as Bethesda.

While all of Bethesda’s games have their bugs to pick at, lets focus in on Bethesda’s most recent smash hit, Skyrim. This game has been bug ridden across all platforms, but no one got hit harder than a chunk of the PS3 user base. Everything seemed fine at first, but as save files slowly began to creep to about the ten megabyte mark things got a little sketchy to say the least. Some people ran into a problem with low resolution textures in some spots while others encountered horrible frame rate drops that rendered the game unplayable. That’s right, I said unplayable. Suddenly the Bethesda forums blew up with gamers outraged at having devoted several hours into a fantastic adventure, just to have the game crap out on them in the middle of it. Bethesda did however act rather quickly and released a patch to remedy the problem. Sadly things were not fixed for everyone. While the problem with low resolution textures for bigger save files was fixed, the frame rate was hit or miss. Some users were fixed, others not so much. Furthermore this patch introduced another slew of bugs to be found in the game as well, such as the infamous backwards flying dragon or the broken magic resistance. Soon after these new bugs were reported it was announced that another patch will be coming to fix them, but only time will tell if the performance issues are totally fixed as well this time around. Bethesda has officially stated that they can and will be working to fix the PS3 performance bug. When this problem will finally be put to rest however, no one can be certain at this point.
The 360 version didn’t get off bug free either. The most famous problem for 360 users was extremely poor texture streaming when the game is installed to the hard drive. While this did result in some rather ugly visuals, the game was still completely playable. Bethesda was sure to patch this problem as well, but 360 users also ran into the same new bugs that PS3 gamers had with their patch. Also like the PS3 version however, another patch is on the way to fix these new problems. The question remains however, will the fixes put in to kill these bugs breath life into yet another slew of new ones? Furthermore, how long will it be till the other less famous bugs are addressed as well, such as the failure to absorb Dragon souls? While 360 users may not be as hurt as the PS3 user base, bugs are bugs and no gamer wants them mucking up an otherwise amazing experience.
The full extent of the damage caused by these bugs is yet unknown, as not everyone experiences them. For example, I myself play Skyrim on my PS3 and currently have about fifty seven hours of playtime so far and I don’t use any special tricks to maintain stability. I have not personally experienced any of the game breaking bugs listed above and know other PS3 users with similar luck as well. It is only natural that the people who do end up with broken frame rates are more vocal toward the issue and those without problems tend to keep quiet. Even so it is evident that there is a serious problem here and while many people don’t experience these issues, a very large fraction of people do. Luckily Bethesda does listen to their user base an will EVENTUALLY fix the issue, or so they claim. In any case scenario however it is scary for anyone playing the PS3 version, even if you don’t have these issues at this time. I know I don’t want to experience these problems and I don’t feel like throwing all of my hard work away to start a new character on a different version. That said, a true fix can’t come soon enough for me, even if it is just for peace of mind alone. Regardless of my own feelings toward the situation however, Bethesda needs to get the ball rolling with this. As it stands now, the PS3 version is a gamble of a purchase when it comes to long term play. Buying a completed product should never be like that and the longer they put this issue off, the worse the damage will be toward a third of their sales potential in the end.

So there you have it. Bethesda has won the love of countless gamers throughout the course of this generation of consoles. The massive scale of the worlds they create and freedom to explore them in any way you can think of is more than enough to win the heart of any adventurer. However with the gift of love comes the burden of hate, which in this case is harbored by the countless bugs found in all of their games. Even so however we love how Bethesda usually fixes the major issues to keep us happy, yet we hate how some of the major game breaking bugs somehow made it past the development stage (which is unacceptable). In short, Bethesda…we love to hate you.
Note: This article expresses the views and opinion of Jason R and does not necessarily reflect the views of the entire staff.



December 15th, 2011
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Yeah, Bethesda has disappointed me many times but now…
THEY WENT TOO FAR!!!
You know, I have been preaching people experiencing the low-res textures on the 360 should load the game to a USB drive. This workaround has been posted by many others on gaming sites (including me posting on the Bethesda twitter page) and Bethesda wouldn’t acknowledge it. Instead, they wanted to patch it..which cause all sorts of other problems.
I did not download any of the updates because I know their track record with updates/patches. I am still pissed the GOTY FO3 still has crashes/bugs/glitches…
Still, I have only had 2 serious glitches with Skyrim which were remedied with auto save re-starts. But, it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
Either way, I can agree on one thing: Bethesda should have tested ALL of their games more thoroughly or pushed back their release dates in order to make them function at 100%.
Unfortunately, developers don’t have that luxury or power.
The truth is it’s all about the investors. They want a return on their investment and they want it within their dictated timeline. That and there are contractual agreements to be fulfilled by a developer to someone like Sony or Microsoft.
That said, the current generation of consoles have afforded developers something they really never had before: the ability to patch things over PSN and XBL. If this wasn’t available to them, there is a good chance a company like Bethesda would be hurting for revenue or out of business.
We fans of certain genres are an unforgiving bunch. Screw us and we’ll screw you back. Word of mouth can be devastating. If the game is broken people will know. Even if you plan on patching it later.
But, I digress…
Anyway, this editorial is good at showing how we have come to have a love/hate/love relationship with someone like Bethesda. It may not be a pretty one, but we keep coming back.
What really upsets me about this situation is that Bethesda won’t release proper fixes until early to mid January. Thats three f*cking months after the game was released. This means all the people that cannot complete a lot of bugged quest will not be able to play the game properly until early next year. You add the terrible lag and the game is pretty much unplayable right now, while Todd Howard and Pete Hines are drinking pina-colada in Hawaii with your hard earned money. Seriously, think about it? What the Hell.
That video where dragon flies backwards is fake. You can see it if you try concentrate when you watch it. You can see that dragon’s ice breath is going in, not out! And arrow comes back to bow, you damn fools. But that “no soul and walking through” it really happened to me too. Near Winterhold. I was pissed off….
Hey SinnGammer, thanks for commenting.
Watch it a little closer man. I assure you it is legit. I have personally experienced this glitch myself once or twice and this is pretty much how it went. I think your tricking yourself with the whole ice breath going in and arrows as well to be honest. Sometime if you concentrate too hard your eyes will play tricks on you.
If my word isn’t good enough, look at the NPC walking in the valley below and the Mammoth that is clearly moving forward. If this video was being played backwards like you imply, they would be moving backwards as well. Instead only the Dragon appears to be glitched. Believe what you want, but this bug is very real and this is exactly how it goes down.
you are so right, the 360 owners will do anything to try and make the PS3 look bad
@SINNGAMER Jason R’s comment is correct and for it to be backwards, the players would have had to record the whole thing walking backwards, am I wrong? That would be incredibly difficult I would think, and the dragon seems to fly fowards at some times, and backwards at others.
@GAMMARAY13 You wouldn’t say the same about PS3 owners? Just look at this website. Every time the 360 wins something, the fanboys either shrug it off, disappear, or go on the defensive, and when the PS3 wins, the fanboys launch all out war. Its a never ending cycle of ignorance and stupidity on both sides. The real gamers here are the ones who can appreciate the pros and cons of each platform and its games, rather than blindly attack the one your not into.
Yeah, my bad. I didn’t look that well after all. But I’m happy that I haven’t experience that glitch yet.
The real problem is us the gamers. We still buy the games even with the bugs. We are so fixed on getting the game day1 and we pay the price. I can’t blame Bethesda it is a business and if we keep buying their products they’ll keep making games with bugs. If we want this to stop all we have to do is stop buying their games day1 and wait for the game of the year edition.
I did not buy Fallout 3 or New Vegas on day1 because 1year later there was a GOTY Edition (bug and dlc free) of F3 and NV shouls have a GOTY (bug and dlc free) early 2012.
As for Skyrim I bought it day1 and so far so good. The game froze a couple of times, but with 30hours in I can’t complain. Uncharted 3 froze on me 4times in the 10hours it took to playthrough. So I can’t complain.
U must have a buggy PS3. Uncharted 2 and 3 have NEVER frozed on mine but fallout 3 and NV froze 1 once every 2-3 hours even with patches. In fact none of the exclusives frozed except….GT5 on day 1.
Sorry but fact is Bethesda has great game designers but piss-poor devs.
This is why this game should never be game of the year… Im 50 hours into the PS3 version and there is no excuse to release a game that some maynot complete.. Its ignorance by Bethesda to think people will wait for a patch, there are other games to buy and play, why should console or pc owners wait?.. Bethesda have taken peoples money and thats it… PS3 version cant be beat, thats great, most people bought it to complete over Xmas..
Ive had little problems on my version but ive seen them, and sometimes its just wrong.. Ive walked through a town after a 10 hour playthrough, not a glitch in sight, done the same things 10 hours later and the framerate is terrible, this is not on… no need for it.. Its not a technical issue with the console, it was fine ten hours previous… Do Bethesda hire games testers?..
I waiting years for this game and im not fully impressed… Love the concept, design, graphics and the amazing soundtrack…. shame about bugs and some gameplay…
I wont be going back to beating it as the lag is kicking in more than ever… ive decided to purchase a 2nd hand wii and zelda, now this is much better, it has gameplay and charm and fresh ideas..
Game of the year should be Zelda or UC3… Shame really as Skyrim is great, but f**ked up… Ive even seen big problems on 360, my mate is also having major problems with his 360 version… but PS3 owners have been hit by a bugger as hell game if they are unlucky and you dont pay 40 pounds for that… not this bad.
yeah so how in the hell did a game with all these problems get game of the year, it just goes to show that the people that gave this GOTY have just as many problems ans should seek help now
Lol are you serious? Yes, this game is bugged and flawed, but look at the big picture. Once the PS3 version is patched up to par with the rest, which will hopefully be fully fixed everywhere, it will be an incredible game. Those voting it for GOTY are looking at the game’s promise and the fun you are having when it works, and not the launch window glitches that will hopefully be fixed soon.
Spike you are missing the point. Games like BAC, skyward sword and U3 are masterpieces but for the most part they were at least 99% technically stable from the getgo. Gamebreaking bugs and glitches SHOULD impact the decision of whether or not a game is awarded GOTY. Juror panels really should count stability as a judging criteria because now more than ever it is a huge factor as games get more and more technically ambitious each year and deadlines become even more demanding. You can’t say Skyrim is the best overall game…when it works. That’s like saying this car is the most efficient and reliable in the world…when its engine isn’t crapping out on you every few hours. By the time Skyrim is completely free of these issues on consoles it will be 2012. Gee, wasn’t it awarded GOTY 2011? Don’t get me wrong, I love it but due in large part to having the more reliable (but not for everyone especially those experiencing bad GPU driver incompatibilities) PC version. Still, there are enough bad experiences for many around the world to officially consider Skyrim a very broken game. Something no GOTY should be. Skyrim deserved the nomination but definitely not the award. And I’m a huge elder scrolls fan.
BUGTHESDA should be the company’s name. They broke the game again with patch 1.3, don’t believe me? go to Skyrim forums and you’ll see how broken this game is. It doesn’t matter which platform PS3- Lag, Broken Quest, PC- Badly Optimized, Broken Quest Xbox- Lag *later in the game, Texture issues, Broken Quest. This game was released broken in all phases. Its a shame. GOTY should be Arkham City, U3, or Zelda: SS
i spent five minutes laughing with the dragon’s video.
I WANNA EXPERIENCE THAT BUG
Been playing on PC since launch which is still the best version as long as all your drivers are right. No major problems. Some minor hiccups here and there but even a midrange rig can run this baby beatifully with the right drivers and right tweaks. Only ever play elder scrolls and bethesda titles on PC though. Can’t imagine a fan alive who would opt for console versions if they have a solid enough rig. For me (and most) it’s all about the modding. Once I have seen and done all there is to see that the game has to offer, modding keeps you interested for years after.
The more one lets their greed grow the less one cares about their ways of satisfying anything else. What’s a few bugs when fortunes are waiting to be plucked. Todd is the main bug that will not be updated.
with uncharted its like i can’t do anything else til im done with the single player campaign (which makes the shortness of it better i guess… it’s like banging a hot chick, u don’t want it to end!). i like mass effect 2 as well, but still havent started the final mission (its how i game… i skip around)
But i don’t know what you guys are talking about with this “flawless” “bug-free” ish… its not nearly on the skyrim level… and ive only experienced bugs (that i can remember) with UC3, But, theyre relatively consistent
SP campaign… not much to say here but it definitely has frozen on me a good half dozen times… maybe 3-4 on first play thru im doin crushing right now (slowly)**i take really good care of my ps3(slim) and games
MP campaign…
1. the glitch where ppl will get stick in walls or just in a small area and move back and forth like theyre having a seizure… sometimes i feel bad and blow em up… sometimes i use them as bait ( i kinda enjoy this bug even when it happens to me… sense of humor ppl)
2. the “black abyss” or “limbo” next time ur on the airplane or whatever its called level, jump off the truck right as the plane is departing… u will enter the black abyss where u wont see anything but ull hear the game going on… (u may even be playing but i dont think so… im pretty sure its limbo)
3. u kill someone and u dont get the kill… really rare… probably has happened twice… but it’s not one of those oh u thought u killed him but someone else did, the first time i thought i was trippin but the second time there was NO ONE else around, i killed him and never got the kill
4.(a) more common version of the above is when u make the kill but it doesnt register til later. no biggie he died at the right time at least.
(b) u kill the dude, u die, and he is still shooting mofos for like 5 seconds… its ur kill, u dont get an afterlife, u shot him enough times when u were alive but since they didnt register the shots he gets to kill u and run around even tho he shouldnt have been alive long enough to kill u (this one is pretty rare as well but ive seen it at least a dozen… prolly closer to 20 times (just hit level 75… )
5. ur the “marked man” either equipped with revenge or someone happens to throw a grenade that blows right after u die. in ur next life the grenade blows and kills u instantly… their goes ur teams lead and everyone thinks ur a effin noob… (in my case, i am, but i still usually am top 1 or 2 )
i cant think of anything off the top of my head right now and sick of typing but making a point here. these glitches (sometimes fun, sometimes lame) are ACCEPTABLE.
Skyrim having 10 frames per second or whatever that shit is… is not. its a total and complete gamebreaker… but what do i do? keep coming back… ill probably never finish this game…
It is not a love/hate relationship. Bethesda games are like sisters, very beautiful bitches, that promise to have the best sex, and then in the middle of it they stop and start getting crazy yelling and throwing stuff at you.
One always hope that the younger sister is not insane and just fails in the same trap over and over. But I took my revenge this time. I waited for some patches and especially the price to drop in Amazon Uk at 45% of the full cost! That bug feast doesn’t deserve more than that.
I love your metaphor!
Well done sir! *****
Play the game on PC. Almost no bugs as far as I know. Nothing happened to my game yet. And with mods it’s an amazing experience.