October 10th, 2011
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Patrick Liu of DICE recently sat down and spoke about developing games on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 — most notably, how he wishes each console had “double the memory”, and how he thinks Battlefield 3 and RAGE will be the highpoint for visual fidelity on consoles this generation. See his quotes below.
“Both Battlefield 3 and Rage are pushing console hardware as much as developers can now, and I don’t think anyone will make something better with this generation of consoles”…”If we were to do something bigger, which we can, then we would require a next generation console.”
Weather its the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360, Liu states there’s one problem he always seems to encounter developing games on each:
“One bottleneck that we always encounter, both on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, is memory. If we had double the amount of memory, it would be great. We could do so much more. So I think more memory would give us more bang for our buck.”
DICE recently announced Battlefield 3 would include optional installs for Hi Res texture packs on both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Do you guys agree with Patrick — are Battlefield 3 and RAGE pushing console hardware as much as developers can? Let us know below. Battlefield 3 will be released on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC on October 25th.
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Going on BF3 beta on console, no.. RAGE, yes, the visuals in that game are stunning on console, smooth, 60fps and super sharp… Its like its running a decent PC..
I feel Uncharted 3 is the top of graphics on this gen of console, easy win for UC3… thats a league of its own..
I hope BF3 has better visuals than the beta for single player campaign when its released?..I saw the MW3 trailer and that looked cinematic and fun.. Time will tell.
Ciertamente RAGE y Battlefield 3 son maravillas técnicas, va a ser una gran competencia gráfica entre estos juegos, incluyendo a Uncharted 3.
I can’t speak for BF3 or Rage, but i’ve been playing Crysis on xbox 360 a fair bit over the last few days, and it’s really f*cking impressive for a console game.
That said it’s clearly time to release new consoles, the current ones are showing their age.
inb4 someone links the 60fps uncharted 3 video with high AF and AA claiming to be running on a PS3.
It is running on PS3, ive seen it in action.. Its super smooth and sharp…Rage does this also..but Rage lacks the charm and character of UC3 and the cinematic style and story..
Crysis 1 is good, playing it myself on PS3, but framerate is showing its age, but its a good game.. I still feel they could get a more steady framerate on console for crysis 1 and 2… Rage sets a benchmark for Frames per second, clarity and smoothness.
Ainsley, that video is everywhere. I doubt Eurogamer , who have played it at various shows, would publish it without commenting on it’s validity, if it weren’t on ps3.
Wasn’t it running at 30fps?
The youtube video was, but I downloaded the original file and it was running at 60fps with high AA and AF.
That’s not to say UC3 won’t look good, since it obviously will, and the textures and models were exceptional, but that footage wasn’t on a PS3.
It WAS on ps3.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/gamers-retreat/1438316-turns-out-those-graphics-were-real.html
Confirmed by Naughty Dog. Looks at all the other recent U3 gameplays, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3P9Y-at_JI&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg0B66z0XBk&feature=relmfu
IMO Uncharted 3 definitely takes the crown for best console game, looks amazing even for a pc game.
@chachaseeds
How am I watching it at 60fps then?
You are watching it at 60fps because the moron who uploaded the video encoded it at 60fps NTSC progressive.
I can do this easily, no problems and with any video, even with Nintendo DS ones.
AA and AF have nothing to do with the “supposed to be fake” quality of the video instead, these are feature of the new ND Engine.
Uncharted 3 looks exactly like what you saw.
Encoding it at 60fps doesn’t magically add frames, I can easily tell the difference between the downloaded version and the youtube 30fps version by how much smoother it looks.
Who knows, perhaps I’m wrong and ND somehow found far more power hidden away in the PS3, but I doubt it.
@AINSLEY If you really wanna know, I suggest you read this thread carefully.
http://forums.naughtydog.com/t5/General-Discussion/IGN-has-60fps-footage-of-Uncharted-3-WAT/td-p/530337/page/3
“DarkShadow345 wrote:
Then it’s how the video was rendered (NOT captured.) I can find the U3 multiplayer trailer rendered IN 60fps.
You’re right, they’ve done this before, can be checked out here:
download: http://gamersyde.com/download_uncharted_3_drake_s_deception_mp_gameplay-20329_en.html
stream: http://gamersyde.com/stream_uncharted_3_drake_s_deception_mp_gameplay-20329_en.html
Looks so smooth, wish the actual game really did run at this framerate.”
Looks like IGN can render 30 fps stuff in 60 fps
RENDERED IN 60 FPS, NOT CAPTURED. Hope that helps.
I was wrong… Naughty Dog apparently made a mistake and captured it @ 60 fps, while the game is confirmed to be 30 fps. But as long as you are watching the Desert Village gameplay on Youtube, then it will be REAL GAMEPLAY. THE U3 DESERT VILLAGE GAMEPLAY IS NOT FAKE.
imo even at 30 fps, it look FAR BETTER than Rage or bf3 on consoles.
It should be illegal for them to say that with a company like Naughty Dog around…
Amen, IMO devs like DICE, ID, and CRYTEK are narcissistic and are convinced that because they had at least one great game they are instantly the best developers around.
Of course Naughty Dog being the best is just an opinion, but at least they are modest and don’t go around yelling “WE THE BEST!” like they’re DJ Khaled or something…
The most narcissistic comment I’ve ever heard Naughty Dog say is that because Uncharted 2 was so critically acclaimed, they feel the pressure and realize they have to create the greatest game of all time or something to satisfy the fans. They say that they believe they have done it, but they make it pretty clear that in THEIR OPINION they’ve outdone Uncharted 2, and then they release vids to back that claim up.
Devs like DICE and ID may be pushing console hardware as much as THEY can, but all that means is that when a company like Naughty Dog does better, DICE and ID have to admit that they were wrong and that they are not in fact the final authority on video games.
bullshit. BF3 on PS3 and 360 isnt taxing anything. it looks graphically inferior to killzone 2. it is not even close to being the console graphics king
rage, maybe. but BF3? no way
and you can say this how? by the beta?
you realize that DICE said the beta has multiple graphical setting turned down/off for the beta in order to get the donwload size down to an acceptable size?
you couldnt be more un informed
Still have high hopes for bf3, but clearly they missed the memo about uc3 footage. That was unreal, and looks better than bf3 or Rage . Ok those games are very different in nature, and each has their technical boundaries they’re pushing, but none of those games have made my jaw hit the floor like uc3 footage did.
‘Battlefield 3 and Rage are pushing console hardware as much as developers can’
Maybe for multiplatform games. I’ve seen and played both rage and bf3 (sp beta, mind you)and they don’t even come close to that recently released uncharted gameplay.
I seriously don’t understand how naughty dog do it. Those sort of visuals would be quite taxing on most gaming rigs D:
ID and DICE might be pushing the Hardware with “their” engines. But i bet Naughty Dog and Guerrilla still have more aces up their sleves.
I’m not entirely sure if Rage should be lumped into this. First it runs at 60fps, which is amazing for the visuals that it produces and lets not forget that its also a multi-platform engine and not written to work exclusively on just ps3 or Xbox.
I’d love to see what I.d. Software could produce at 30fps and a single platform.
I have been hearing/reading this kind of non sense talk a lot, of course all Games developing companies have PR and marketing representative. They will all speak highly about their own games.
Sorry Rage’s Fan as well BF3′s fan. both of those two games didn’t even push Xbox360 or PS3. and all great gamers will agree with me.
Please Rage & BF3 developers stop this kind of non logic/sense, this is just one of your propaganda and hyping your games.
which one did push both consoles to their limit, and still might discover more and more,
1. Gears of war 3 did push xbox360 and uses it abilities.
2. Uncharted 3 also did push PS3 and uses it power horse to produce
these games from my prospective pushed both system.
Well said bro, well said.
Agree 100%, the devs of all people should realize and mention that as a multiplatform title they aren’t pushing either console to its limits, perhaps just the middle ground.
Overall Gears of War 3 and Uncharted 3 pushed the boundaries of their respective consoles the most. Which game pushed it the most/had the best outcome is all opinion.
Me? I say Uncharted 3, but I’ve only seen a few Gears 3 videos because I’d rather not watch numerous videos on a game I don’t even have the console for….why ruin my mood haha.
Naughty Dog are geniuses of their trade. They know this industry better than pretty much all other top developers this gen. Rage does look great, but it still has it’s share of flaws. The textures close up, for the most part, are actually ungodly bad. UC3 textures are almost to a level of perfection. Morons like Ainsly can continue telling themselves that a youtube video was running at 60 FPS, if that’s what helps them sleep at night, but the truth still stands: Uncharted 3 will very likely finish off this gen as the graphical king. Case and point.
But he wasn’t talking about the YouTube video, he was talking about this:
UC3 is overrated. I’ve taken dumps that look better than UC3.
Did you also notice the 2 dementional plants in Rage also? I thought the game looked great at first! But when i started looking closer i realized that this game uses a similer technique that Alan wake used. All smoke and mirros accept Rages Technique is far superior to the ugly Alan wake technique.
That’s right. If you haven’t checked out the Wolfenstein, Quake, and Doom Easter Eggs in Rage then you must! It’s funny because you see how far games have come…then you start picking through the ultra pixelated rocks, walls, and other areas in Rage and notice there is still much work that needs to be done! I think with all the hype, and id Tech 5, it made us all mega critical on Rage…and I guess rightfully so. At the end of the day it’s still a good game, just not the irrefutable technical marvel everyone claimed it would be! Heck, even when you look down your character doesn’t have legs or a body, he’s got lungs though because you can hear him breathe heavy when he runs. It’s the old school “floating arms with a gun” FPS.
Well I honestly wouldn’t know if they’re pushing the hardware as much as it can be pushed but I agree with all on the fact that I’m ready for the next gen with a beefier system. All I can say is I hope that final BF3 for my PS3 looks, sounds, and plays insanely better than the beta. I swear that beta just took all of the wind out of my Battlefield sails. It was a poor representation of DICE’s usual product. I’m going to wait for the reviews on the BF3 final product before I buy. Rage had some radical parts to it, but overall I would have passed it up after playing through the whole game, it was kind of disappointing.
…and then comes out a better looking game.
This is typical “we’re the best from that console at the moment” marketing BS. Good looking games usually come out by the end of the console’s life time so I doubt this is the last stunning looking games.
Uncharted 3 is a good example but then again, this makes me question on how far will a developer go to make a game look “stunning” without focusing less on gameplay and such.
From that gameplay footage a couple of days ago of UC3, the game looked good, really good…..but I noticed a lot of the animations looked choppy and there were times when it just didn’t look natural.
Also noticed this on Uncharted 2.
@TWIST3DM3RC
“.but I noticed a lot of the animations looked choppy and there were times when it just didn’t look natural.”
I think you seriously need an eye examination.
I think this is a certain style of platforming that ND has implemented into the game. When Drake is jumping up the walls sure it might not look all that realistic but I prefer it that way because it makes the platforming much more accessible. It may not look quite as realistic as Assassin’s Creed but I still prefer climbing up buildings and swinging across gaps in Uncharted. It’s a preference thing and most gamers won’t really mind the animations in the game.
Developers may be ready for new consoles, but consumers certainly aren’t.
Speak for yourself, I wish they would release new systems.
Rage is pushing the consoles to the limit with the mega texture tech and silky smooth 60fps, but Battlefield certainly isnt.
you haven’t seen final version, so you can’t really comment with authority. Furthermore, huge environments with large groups of players, almost 720p, dynamic lighting, vehicles and destructible environments also disagree with your opinion on bf3 btw.
Gears of War 3 is without a doubt the best looking game on any console ever. So for them to say that is ridiculous. GOW3 blows away any other game, I dare anyone here to name a game that looks better than Gears 3.
Uncharted 3. There, I named it, and I could care less whether or not you will agree with my opinion. But don’t go around spouting your own opinions as if they’re facts.
In the end though, neither Gears of War 3 nor Uncharted 3 has huge and highly destructible maps like Battlefield 3.
There has been no gears 3 uncharted 3 comparison yet. I think its too soon to say. I would probably have gone with gears 3 but i wouldn’t say its the best looking game either. Crysis 1 i think has better destructibility and graphics AND physics than BF3. Crysis 2 aswell actually.
They did a head2head on Gears 3 and the Uncharted 3 Beta, but it was more about performance than looks.
All we have seen of Battlefield 3 so far is its β-build though (a genuine β at that), and isn’t really a good representation of what the final build will be. So, I personally would wait the game until the game is released first, to see what it’s truly capable of, before comparing it to the Crysis series.
Also, while I do think that the PC versions of the Crysis series are literally worthy to be called “graphics king”, the console versions (of Crysis 2 anyway, since I haven’t play recently released Crysis yet), left much be to desired (textures and geometries pop-ins, drastic dips in frame rate during intense situations…)
@BLOWSTUFFUP7
Well, it doesn’t matter, even Uncharted 2 and God Of War 3 look better than GeOW3.
if GOW3 had a bit of anti-alising it would look more or less like UC3. but god, this missing makes it look horrible for me.
Yeah f*cking right. When Battlefield doesn’t give us a glitchy, screen tearing fest with N64-esque textures that were painted on, and Rage doesn’t give us a blurry pop-in fest, then I’ll start to take notice. Both games look good, but I’ve honestly seen better such as Crysis 2, Gears 3, Killzone 3, and Uncharted 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTOvrUVPTE
Help me find screen tearing please.
Approximately 29 or 30 seconds in, saw a huge tear when he turned right to go into the building. I stopped there. You’re welcome.
I dont think that was tear.
You don’t even want me to look… I’ll find them all without even pausing the video.
I dare you. I think there was only one tear in the whole footage.
I rechecked the whole video and only saw screen tearing in 14 frames so there the latest build is leagues better than the beta
http:// www. youtube .com/ watch?v=geTOvrUVPTE
Help me find screen tearing please.
I’m slowly losing respect for these devs that claim all sorts of hash like this, Do they think we can’t see what they are referring to??? We play the games they sell and I for one have not been wowed by either the Battlefield 3 Beta or Rage.
I also found this, Brings back memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAwBa_-PbM
Nice!
This one brought back nightmares for me, what the hell was Sony thinking!? HAHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqkNPcUMffU&feature=related
Wowzers, I don’t remember ever seeing that, I’m glad I didn’t. Their new advert is brilliant though. Thumbs up to that.
I have to agree with Dice there’s not much left in the old hardware. My wallet is overflowing with cash waiting…
Just waiting…
maybe ill spend a little more on this PC while I wait!
To be honest, when i hear things come out of cryteks mouth I’ll believe them. Bought crysis 1 and it’s the best looking thing i’ve ever seen on a consoles. The BF3 beta demo didn’t impress me at all. Water doesn’t even ripple when you shoot it which shows major holes in the dev programme. Can’t speak for rage as i’ve never played it but from what i see, it looks well and its nice that it runs at 60fps and i trust carmack’s judgement but when crytek says the systems are maxed, i’ll believe them. They too said that they’d like at least 8GB of RAM next gen, and that RAM was lacking, but they also said that with ryse on 360, they think they can get another couple of % out of the 360 even over crysis. Crytek are the guys to push the 360 and ps3. Expected more from dice. Maybe the full game will take a large step, but i think only so much can be done. If you ask me, the cryengine 3 is just the best engine that has ever been used in a console.
Crysis 2 on consoles was sub hd and had custom aa( basically non existent ), objects popping in, frame rate drops, low res textures etc etc . It was nice , don’t get me wrong, but not even close to best looking game this gen. Crysis 1 is same res and fixes frame rate to a degree, but other issues remain ( not as prominent , but still there). I think crysis looks great, but not the best this gen.
I’ll wait to see what bf3 retail version looks like before judging it against the true champions this era like kz3, gears 3 and uncharted 2, but based on recent videos it’s certainly up there , but things like pop in and screen tear might stop it reaching those heights, plus you have to take into account the nature of the game , when comparing it to linear games.
On a purely aesthetic level, uc3 looks best looking game this gen, but I’m sure other games are pushing boundaries in other ways just as much.
C’mon man…
…do you hear yourself?
“not even close…”
…just gotta love ps3 fanboy hyperbole.
I guess all of those multiple websites that said Crysis 2 was the best looking console game were lies.
There may be a debate now since Gears 3 and Rage have been released but some still think Crysis 2 is the best looking console game. Heck there are some that think it’s crysis. Me personally I’m not sure. But I do know this….
The top 5 looking games right now in no particular order are Rage,Crysis 2, Gears 3, Battlefield 3 and Crysis.
Notice how 4 out of the 5 games include large playing areas and environments so not only are they visually impressive they are technically impressive as well. Gears 3 still gets points though because it offers 4-player co-op, Horde mode AND multiplayer that still manages to look every bit as good as the single player campaign. The same can’t be said for uncharted 3.
I can’t give points to a game like uc3 which is a linear scripted movie with cheap quick time events and STILL takes a nose dive in the visual department in multiplayer which is a jaggy mess. Also somes effects like fire and smoke look like donkey a**. It’s just not as impressive as people want to make it out to be.
Notice how the best looking ps3 games are linear, scripted and/or on rails. For cryin’ out loud you might as well be playing God of War 3 in a shoebox; Killzone 3 is not only linear but also sprinkled with on-rails segments and as I said uncharted 3 is just a scripted movie with cheap quick-time sequences. Yeah the ps3 exclusives look good but definitely not the best and even then they’re still not technically impressive.
My goodness, imagine if Crytek, Id and DICE made their games as scripted and linaer as most of the ps3 exclusives
I don´t think DICE will be the ones who make the technichally best games on consoles. They are good but they are not Guerilla games or epic games for example. Also DICE shouldn´t talk to much about graphics since it´s not the best thing about battlefield 3 and I will never understand why they picked operation metro for map and only 1 game mode available almost.
@ Blowstuffup7 – So you belive everything crytek tell you yeah?……Well remember when they said the console versions of Crysis 2 would be exactly the same? They wasnt, the PS3 version ran at a lower resolution. Also remember them saying they had a solid 30fps locked down? Lol thats right……they didnt. It sometimes dropped to 15fps. I wouldnt trust what Crytek say as far as i could piss.
lower resolution but with the best performance. less dropped frames, almost no screen tearing, still pretty nice.
I don’t care what people think about Uncharted 3… just do not call it 60FPS because it’s only 30.
I just watched the Uncharted 3 desert gameplay… HOLY CRAP! IT REALLY IS RUNNING 60FPS! Either Naughty Dog are the best developers ever for doubling the framerate AND making the game look better than Uncharted 2, or someone used software to convert the 30fps video to 60fps (it is possible in the same way that 120HZ TV’s smooth video motion).
If this is not a trick, I’m very impressed by that footage… I only watched a few seconds of it because I didn’t want to ruin the game for myself… but DAMN… how did they do that 60fps magic?
I guess we’ll see if it’s fake when DF gets ahold of it.
I am sorry man, but Uncharted 3 runs at 30 fps, just like the previous one.
Sorry… guys I have to say something…
I just found a thread on another website discussing the 60fps gameplay video and…
A lot of people are mentioning that since it has 3D and split screen, then technically it CAN run at 60fps for single player… however… I have something to add to that.
Mutli-player ALSO has split screen and 3D, so why doesn’t multiplayer run at 60fps as well?
It seems very fishy to me… I think IGN messed with the video… if they didn’t then Naughty Dog are geniuses!
Although 60fps is kinda nice… the game sort of loses it’s cinematic feel at 60 in my opinion. It’s like putting a movie on with motion flow… just bad.
If according to him RAGE and BF3 are pushing consoles to the limit and will be the best looking console games this generation, then Mr Liu clearly hasn’t seen Uncharted 3 in action ^^
Sorry to add so much to this thread but I found twitter posts by Evan Wells that says the game (Uncharted 3) runs at 30fps NOT 60fps. Sorry guys… here’s the twitter links:
http://twitter.com/#!/Marconelly/status/122367440431742978
http://twitter.com/#!/evan_wells/status/122381186025799680
http://twitter.com/#!/Marconelly/status/122384436263264257
UNCHARTED 3 DOES NOT RUN AT 60FPS!
Of course it doesn’t.
That video is full of duplicated/interpolated frames, it’s been encoded at 60fps before uploading and it’s been encoded pretty badly too.
Just pay attention to the top portion of the screen and look how weird it looks.
Thank you for providing the information.
Rage looks pretty good. It runs 60 FPS on both console with a dynamic frame buffer turned on, which means – the resolution could change from 1280×720 down to 680×720 if it needed to, and transition back. Regardless, for as massive as it is, and what it offers, Rage is pretty impressive. And like others have said, perhaps it’s pushing consoles on a multiplatform level, but not on an exlcusive level, because it’s not catering to one specific hardware.
Honestly, the console exclusive games like Gears of War serie, God of War, Killzone, and uncharted; they reign supreme. It’s the exclusive magic. And when it comes to up-close texture detail, Halo series does a good job, with just how much you can see up close.
Remember the grass on Halo 1? The metal structure walls? That was nice.
Exclusives = supreme graphics, and for obvious reasons that most of us are aware of.
Let’s all hope that BF3 doesn’t look as crappy as it’s beta did.
So, RAGE represents the best a game can look on the current-gen of consoles? That’s a really depressing thought. If you look too closely at RAGE’s texture work, you will go blind. It’s full of smeared, pixelated surfaces that only hint at what they’re supposed to represent. I know the 360 can’t keep up with a modern high-end PC, but I thought the 22 GB install was supposed the make textures look like they weren’t created by chimps smearing their feces across my TV.
ok, so…the consoles 6 years old. both consoles unveiled at E3 2005. But. does it really matter?? ID Tech 5 engine boosts 60fps and the graphics are amazing!! Developers can use this engine in it’s future upcoming games…but lets jus step away from graphics for a sec…
It’s all about gameplay! and as far as i am concerned…the graphics are still pretty decent right now.
Unreal engine 3 still looks good (gears of war 3)
Naughty Dog’s Uncharted 3…that looks really impressive.
So do we really need a new console now?? well of course we do..but not for another couple of years at least
I honestly think both systems are capable of more than Battlefield 3 and Rage. I think they are capable of much more! Skyrim IMO will show us just that…. Much more!
Even ol Cliffy B said 360 is capable of much more than what we saw in Gears 3 and Gears 3 is no slouch in graphics and overall gameplay so I think both consoles have at least another 2 years of improvement to go. Lets hope Microsofts Xbox Revo or Xbox 720 or Xbox Next, etc is announced next year but not released until the end of 2012 or early 2013 so we can see the current gen through to its max!
Crysis and Crysis 2 more pushing consoles hardware 100%.
And look better than BF3 and Rage on consoles.
You know… this article has made me realize one thing… No one ever talks about the gameplay side of these games – it’s all about the grapihcs. Why the hell DO we give such a sh*t about graphics? Seriously. Cuz as far as it stands, the three best games I’ve played so far this year (Portal 2, Infamous 2, and Deus Ex) don’t have mindblowing graphics in the slightest – instead, they have amazing, innovative gameplay and a great story. I’m sorry, but neither RAGE nor Battlefield 3 do anything exactly amazing with their gameplay. Rage is fun and it has great graphics, but it could have been so much more of a great game. Judging from what I played of the beta, I think the same could go for BF3 at launch.
The fact remains that NOTHING I’ve been excited about this year has been attributed to the graphics alone. It’s all been attributed to tight, innovative gameplay, and/or a deep, resonating story or setting. My most anticipated game, Skyrim has nice graphics, but they are nothing mindblowing. Neither are the visuals of Dark Souls, which is an amazing RPG that came out at the same day as RAGE. Hell, go back 6 or 7 months when we were arguing about Crysis 2 vs Killzone 3. Yes, Killzone 3 had way better visuals, but which game did I have more fun with and liked better? Crysis 2.
Now Patrick Liu and John Carmack can talk up a storm about their technologies, and gloat all about how they look better than anything on the market, but their games are nothing special in the long run. And really, it saddens me that these people put so much emphasis on visual technology, when none have put any work into refining, expanding, or innovating the core design of whatever game their working on.
Also, a big fyi. Look at Uncharted 3 and Gears 3 – have the developers ever gone on endlessly about the visuals of their games? The fact remains that those two games have the best graphics of 2011 from developers who focused primarily on gameplay, design, and story as the selling points of their titles. Food for thought.
Well said! Got me thinking a little too!
Great points!
Altho graphics are the talking points because if they werent, we’d still be playing 8 bit games/systems. Graphics do matter as it makes great gameplay that much more immersive! And I think most of us want a realistic experience in our games 1st and foremost and that begins and ends with graphics. Who doesnt want a 100% real looking Grand Theft Auto, oh could you imagine
Graphics do not make a game fun though.
I had a freakin’ blast playing Infamous 2 and the graphics in that are not that spectacular. I just loved everything about the game. The powers, the climbing, the controls… everything about the game made it fun.
I wish companies would focus more on what makes a game fun instead of focusing on how many pixels they can squeeze onto the screen at one time.
Thankfully, Uncharted 3 has all of it. The story, the gameplay and the graphics. It’s a masterpiece.
I’m sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings but RAGE does not look like anything special to me, it looks like it’s from last gen with semi-high-res textures. It’s pure cheese. Also, Crysis 2 kicks the crap out of Battlefield 3 on consoles and there’s no screen tearing in Crysis 2… however, I really didn’t like the animations in Crysis 2… to each his own.
Lensoftruth: Please do you screenshot comparison on Crysis 1.
infamous 2 has great graphics imo. and the reason you enjoy jumping around and climbing on buildings and throwing cars up high in the air is because of graphics. great graphics do make a game more fun to play. Just imagine infamous 2 with 16 bit, mode 7 graphics :/ Trust me graphics are a large part of what makes a game fun. If you dont believe that, go back and play double dribble for NES then play NBA 2k12, graphics is a large part of what makes a game more fun. The more realistic the gfx, the more immersive = more fun.
Its why Mario 64 was so fn epic back in the day, it was Mario but in a 3D world a whole new element of fun! Graphics are a top priority for fun for me, thats why im not playing Atari anymore :/